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Old 11-25-2007, 12:15 AM
NicholasJ NicholasJ is offline
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Default 400NL Turn TPTK

Nothing on villain, I have been LAggish.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $450
UTG+1: $400
CO: $497
Button: $158.25
SB: $922.70
BB: $603.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($34, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $24</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($82, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, CO calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($202, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $152</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $399</font>.


How is the line thus far? Can we find a river fold given NO info on villain?
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:56 AM
82Steve 82Steve is offline
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

getting 3:1 i call in an instant. i think a 6 would raise the turn hoping you have an ace. and i doubt hes full or caught w/ 54.

i wonder if its more profitable to let him bluff or valuebet a weaker hand on the river. your line doesnt get a lot of calls. but when you back off at the river it looks like you just bluffed the ace on the turn.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:41 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

700 in the pot. 200 to call. You have to be right 22% of the time.


Any timing tells?
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

I like the riverbet since it looks like you could be 2nd barreling the ace to push him off a medium pair. Which may get him to call you lighter.

But I can't think of a hand you beat after he pushed the river. There's no missed draw, I doubt he would turn a medium PP into a bluff or would raise with something like AQ, AJ, AT. He probably would have folded those hands on the flop anyway. So a slowplayed 6x, 33 or a rivered 77, 45 make way more sense than a bluff. Therefore I would fold.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:51 AM
VictumSempra VictumSempra is offline
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

I don't think he is value shoving here with a hand like AJ or AT. It is very possible he is calling in late position with a suited connected or pocket pair. I don't think this a bluff most of the time because you are getting great odds to call with a hand like yours.

Looks like a fold to me.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:56 AM
schreech26 schreech26 is offline
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The river is an easy fold. Villain can have so many hands that beat you and it's very unlikely he called all the way to the river just to bluff shove on you.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

abc..fold
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

foooolllldddddd.
no way he's bluffing, you're good 0.01 % of the thime here.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

Looks like 66 or 33 to me, but it is pretty hard to fold now. Still probably a fold w/o a read.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 400NL Turn TPTK

Fold and you played perfect. I don't really see him having to raise turn particularly because you very well could be bluffing the ace yourself and he expects you would fire another barrel on the river with air.
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