Trips facing river shove

recallme · #1 11-20-2007, 05:33 PM

Villain is 30/16/1.2/1.6/2.2 over 700. No history between us, i was quite passive yet. Only hand worth mentioning at this table, where i was involved yet was:

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $6252.34
CO: $2989
Button: $1253
Hero: $2554
BB: $1425.66

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero raises to $70, BB raises all-in $1425.66,

I called, which is standard? Villain showed AA then

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3044.87
Hero: $2048
CO: $1750.32
Button: $5127.68
SB: $3889.66
BB: $1351

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $70, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($280, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $210, CO folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($700, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $550, SB calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1800, 2 players)
SB bets $1220

The flopped draw missed, but i am not sure if he can have a FH here.

ArturiusX · #2 11-20-2007, 05:56 PM

Its been a while since I've played 10/20, but the first hand is not standard.

In the second hand, it could be a block with KQ/KJ I guess, I'd have a hard time folding without any reads.

thejerkface · #3 11-20-2007, 05:59 PM

Hand 1 is a super easy fold.
Hand 2, I call river.

recallme · #4 11-20-2007, 06:29 PM

Is first really a muck?

RiverHebrew2 · #5 11-20-2007, 06:51 PM

I call here all day. This could be a bluff certainly, or even worse K that didn't wann alose value by c/rai on turn vs a bluff or nething. If he backdoored spades, so be it. I can't expect him to have a FH here because you see tha the plays very strong hands very strong (as with massive overshove preflop with the AA).

ArturiusX · #6 11-20-2007, 06:53 PM

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Is first really a muck?

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What kind of equity do you think you have?

recallme · #7 11-20-2007, 06:53 PM

He`s a obviously not very decent with this kind of stack

JFsports · #8 11-20-2007, 07:08 PM

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In the second hand, it could be a block with KQ/KJ I guess, I'd have a hard time folding without any reads.

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It can't be a blocker cos it's a shove...but it definitely could be a value bet from a worse hand, or some random bluff. The shove in the first hand + his stack size in same means he's probably not very good.

I would happily call here, I think we're well ahead of his range.

homeboy604 · #9 11-20-2007, 09:03 PM

hand 1) very far from standard. why would you risk 150bb's when you only have 70 invested. doesnt make any sense.

2) pretty easy call.

jj12 · #10 11-20-2007, 09:07 PM

2 is instacall. 1 I would fold unless he has been pushing semi regularly