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Old 11-29-2007, 02:23 AM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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Default 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

Good or bad spot? Opponent loose not too passive either but only 25 hands. Should I be calling here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($14.40)
SB ($19.65)
BB ($23.95)
Hero ($40.30)
MP ($17.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.85</font>, Button calls $1.85.

Turn: ($6.05) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $11.55</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $21.60
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

this is fine.. drawy board on flop and turn card doesn't seem to hit many drawing hands besides 89
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

it hits plenty more than 89.

This is a call imo, 3-1 with tptk against a shorty.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

Lol no. You need 25% equity, you donīt think he might play KQ/KJ like this if he is somewhat solid? If he is not solid he can have anything.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

lookss damn good to me. no way he EVER raises this turn without us crushed. he has 2 pair or better
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

I felt stupid after folding for a few reasons. Good odds to call. I bet because thought had best hand. My flop and turn bet sizes look weird, flop is non standard amount and turn is. But one of my bigger leaks is bet/call I just having trouble finding the right spots.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:51 AM
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u should only bet call the turn with a big draw (when villian minraises and u have a sick draw) or u have tha stone cold nutz and want to get him to bet the river or hit his draw when he is drawing dead. basically i rarely bet call on hthe turn. i bet shove or bet fold almost always
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

when god gave moses the b/f line, this was the hand on teh tablet
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

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when god gave moses the b/f line, this was the hand on teh tablet

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Right. You realize of course that we are 23% vs a hand like QT? So unless we think that this loose shortstack that is not passive only ever pushes with sets and straights I donīt see it. I have on occasion seen shortstacks with this description shove with less. There is like any amount of top pair, second pair hands in his range.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: 25nl AQ Learning to b/f good spot?

i think twas played fine.

i think we gotta respect villains all in here, i think you are behind his range which encompasses something like: 89, K9, JT, QT, QJ. 44, (maybe but NOT likely sets)

In addition, there are ALOT of likely Pair + Draw hands or combo draws. I think this is a terrible board for TPTK, and even though you got Aces for 2 pair and Kings for the straight, i really don't think you can call here. You can't even be sure of those outs, i wouldn't count on any hearts.

so YES i think good laydown, you are often behind, and when you are actually ahead of a draw, you are not ahead by much at all and villain is All-in, so there is no value to call.
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