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Old 08-28-2006, 03:48 PM
iremmats iremmats is offline
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Default 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($613.70)
Button ($470.47)
SB ($1446.84)
Hero ($1618.39)
UTG ($591)
MP ($770)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, J. SB posts a blind of $3.
i]4 folds[/i]SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $18,SB calls $18.

Flop: ($48) T, 9, 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $40, SB calls $40.

Turn: ($128) 2 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $88, SB calls $88.

River: ($304) 8 2 players)
SB bets $288.

Final Pot: $592

Fi is very good regular at 3/6. 20/16/3. I got a strong feeling he has the flush. But Ax should be ruled out because of prefop action right? And most Kx too?
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

Call. If you reraise here you're either setting yourself up to lose a ton of cash or not gain any.
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Old 08-28-2006, 04:11 PM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

This is tough. He can have A10s, K10s.

He cannot have 109s, 108s or J10s.

Usually he's got a straight or a flush here and most of that time it's the flush. If its a flush he almost always has a pair or a gutshot on the flop to go with it. If he is quite loose than its possible he had the 4x with his flush draw, but I think you are seeing A10, K10, KQ alot of the time here. He can also be bluffing but raising doesn't help you there.

If you are raising, are you going 800 or allin? A push is powerful here because your hand is so disguised and usually any flush will call.

I just call.
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Old 08-28-2006, 04:29 PM
Keepitsimple Keepitsimple is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

Do you have any set hands on this guy? There are very few hands that beat you (KTs, ATs?). I think you see a set or straight here more often than a higher flush. I like 700 and fold to a push.
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Old 08-28-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

i'd make it 900, a lot more hands you beat than lose to.
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Old 08-28-2006, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

OMFG, raise.
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Old 08-28-2006, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

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OMFG, raise.

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Old 08-28-2006, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

Raise, its quite simple that the odds are he didnt make a runner runner flush. He prolly thinks you didnt make it aswell, and put you on overpair or something like it. He prolly has a hand like a set, or 2pair with a connector. So reraise to 900, I think this bet has the biggest return.

And AX should certainly be ruled out, not only by the pf betting, but also bc of the flop call. Remember that the flush was made runner runner. Also you made a raise from UTG+1, that will close options like KTs (it would just be stupid to call with that hand, and villain isnt?).
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Old 08-28-2006, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

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OMFG, raise.

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Old 08-28-2006, 06:02 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 RR flush. Push or call?

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ATs, and maybe A4s are the only hands you're behind, and he'll talk himself into a call with all sorts of crap.

Not to mention the fact that he is representing a straight, which he folds approximately never.
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