Online 25/50 Turn spot

[ALL1N]

Villain (TDH) has been running his mouth a bit after a hand where I limped SB, he minraised, I 3-bet pot, he 4-bet, and I shoved (I had AK) - he folded, saying "you're bad enough to have something here." Since then he has reraised me once, and had KTo at showdown (I folded, somebody else played). He appears to play fairly LAG, but not stupid.

Also important, only a few hands earlier I raised AA MP, got called by a solid button, CRed on 853dd, shoved turn Jh and was called by 98, and TDH commented "wtf", so he clearly saw the hand.

Hand:
Villain has 7800, I cover.

I open 76hh CO, TDH calls BTN. Blinds fold.

Flop is 9d 5h 4d. I check, he checks.

Turn 2s. I bet 375, he raises to 1330.

Should I consider playing back, and if so, to what amount?

[king_of_drafts]

I think you should make it about 3400 planning to fold to a shove, and also planning to shove most rivers if he just calls. Maybe shove every river.

Folding and just waiting for a different spot is obviously an option too, especially if this idiot is gunning for you.

[praios]

just fold as played

i had bet the flop

[TresDeuce]

Why did you not bet the flop?

[king_of_drafts]

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Why did you not bet the flop?

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bc c-betting 100% of the time is ghey

[AZK]

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Why did you not bet the flop?

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bc c-betting 100% of the time is ghey

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not in this spot.

[ALL1N]

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Why did you not bet the flop?

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Well I thought that there are a heaps of hands that look good enough to get it in on this flop (just about every flush draw has some saucy combination of straight draw/overcards too), so I wanted to keep the pot small with my concealed but unshowdownable draw. ie I didn't want to 3-bet if raised.. maybe bet/call was best.

Also, with him having seen my AA hand, I thought I should still have decent folding equity when I fire the turn.

[Kirkrrr]

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Why did you not bet the flop?

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Well I thought that there are a heaps of hands that look good enough to get it in on this flop (just about every flush draw has some saucy combination of straight draw/overcards too), so I wanted to keep the pot small with my concealed but unshowdownable draw. ie I didn't want to 3-bet if raised.. maybe bet/call was best.

Also, with him having seen my AA hand, I thought I should still have decent folding equity when I fire the turn.

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I might just give up on this with like QJo but it's such a sick flop for your hand that I don't see how you can not fire... even 3-betting and risking getting 4-bet AI on this flop with an OESFD would've been fine in my book, or just calling and c/r'ing turn, or pretty much anything but what actually happened and resulted in this extremely awkward spot.
As is, you have pretty much direct odds to call and should still have decent implied odds if you hit on the river since he will loath folding to you given your guys' history. I don't like 3-betting turn for the same reasons - he's getting tired of you and looks like he's ready to play and this is a hand we were ready to felt on the flop but not the turn.

Kirk

[Hobb]

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I think you should make it about 3400 planning to fold to a shove, and also planning to shove most rivers if he just calls. Maybe shove every river.

Folding and just waiting for a different spot is obviously an option too, especially if this idiot is gunning for you.

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i think this is good advice. obviously kod's line is more aggressive than some players might be comfortable takin... so i weight the line more to 60/40 fold/raise. i couldnt really get a grasp of ur opponent just off ur random hand descriptions, but i definitely think this is a spot to consider playing back.. though buildin a big pot OOP is bad..

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I think you should make it about 3400 planning to fold to a shove, and also planning to shove most rivers if he just calls. Maybe shove every river.

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I like this line a lot.