Turnded st8 vs rivered Flush?

recallme · #1 03-07-2007, 09:20 PM

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $107
CO: $109.75
Button: $137.25
SB: $114.25
Hero: $158.99

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $12, UTG folds, SB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $17, SB calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($61, 2 players)
SB bets $42,

I have no read and only beating a set or a total bluff.
You call/ push or fold that?

Bill Smith · #2 03-07-2007, 09:33 PM

21-23 on turn, but whatever. With no reads, I call. Except against a complete donk, this is almost never a set, but something like QT (missed) or K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] still makes sense, and if he can read hands at all he can feel pretty sure you don't have the spades.

recallme · #3 03-07-2007, 10:26 PM

More oppinions?

Jamougha · #4 03-07-2007, 10:29 PM

Really gay turn bet.

You're probably beat on the river, then again decent odds. idk.

.xxxx. · #5 03-07-2007, 10:45 PM

pot the turn because of the draws left out there.

also, how agg has the table been playing preflop? I never like to limp along with KQ/pockets from SB. With that range for myself, I'm leaning towards folding because I think its right, but I'd probably call because I can't help myself

RiverHebrew2 · #6 03-07-2007, 10:38 PM

You can find a fold. You definitely DONT push.

FeltBelt · #7 03-07-2007, 10:47 PM

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You can find a fold. You definitely DONT push.

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Hero doesn't want to push but also doesn't want to find a fold. Easy call. There is so much he could be betting here, including a pure bluff.

recallme · #8 03-08-2007, 08:12 AM

So calling is the best play here, right?

recallme · #9 03-08-2007, 12:50 PM

Are you all calling in this spot?
Do you really think i have to protect my hand at turn against the spades draw?

Kowalski · #10 03-08-2007, 01:15 PM

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Are you all calling in this spot?
Do you really think i have to protect my hand at turn against the spades draw?

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[censored] YES

Bet more on the turn. ATLEAST 20. I'd probably make it 25.

River is call/fold depending on villan. It's obvious that you're going to see two spades here a large % of the time. But with how weakly you bet, I would make the river call.

This definitely isn't a river to raise.