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Old 12-26-2006, 09:58 PM
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Default Going All In Before The Flop....

Should you ever go all in before the flop in a tournament or is that too risky?
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:01 PM
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this is great stuff

wish i had thought of it [censored]
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:05 PM
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yes
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:09 PM
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More please, not just a yes or no....I really dont ever like to go all in unless I am so short stacked that I am forced to, even AA is scary, yes you are a favorite, but chances are if you keep pushing all in before the flop with aces eventually someone will out draw you, I would prefer to see the flop and make sure there are there are no straight draws, or flush draws or pairs on board before I would feel comfortable going all in. OK now your thoughts?
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: Going All In Before The Flop....

my thoughts are that youre too scared to be playing tournaments
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:31 PM
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The OP has to be 9th leveling us here.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:58 PM
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The OP has to be 9th leveling us here.

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its meta-metagame. i'm starting to wonder if i should ever play any cards at all unless i am in the BB.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:59 PM
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hilarious
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Old 12-26-2006, 11:02 PM
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More please, not just a yes or no....I really dont ever like to go all in unless I am so short stacked that I am forced to, even AA is scary, yes you are a favorite, but chances are if you keep pushing all in before the flop with aces eventually someone will out draw you, I would prefer to see the flop and make sure there are there are no straight draws, or flush draws or pairs on board before I would feel comfortable going all in. OK now your thoughts?

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And I thought I was pretty bad at poker.

Going all-in preflop is essential to winning. If you have AA, you are 80% to win. Why wouldn't you want to get all of your chips in there preflop? Make someone pay to play against you. Now don't get me wrong, there are spots where you don't want to go all-in preflop and there are times when pushing all of your chips isn't going to accomplish anything, but in general, putting all of your chips in preflop is a must.

If you get upset because you go all-in preflop with AA and then get beat and you are saying that eventually you will get outdrawn on, you are being results-oriented. AA is a premium hand, but it is vulnerable. In the long-run, you'll win with AA 80% of the time. That is all you have to consider. And I'll say it again, don't be results oriented. It took me awhile to get over it and I'm still not, but I am accepting it more. I think I'm on my 4th or 5th bankroll try to get something going. I have alot to learn, but your question is fundamental.

And as one poster said, you probably shouldn't play tournaments if you are thinking about this.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Going All In Before The Flop....

Now I see why I do so well at tournaments....you guys will risk all your chips without seeing the flop, that is a big gamble in a tournament, In a live game I would not think twice, but tournament play is different. I myself would rather see a flop, now I am not saying I would not go all in if I was forced to, I am just saying I would rather see a flop....the key to winning tournaments is not going all in because you can or because the odds are correct to do so, it is about survival limiting the times you go all in and sometimes folding the best hand. I am not saying don't be aggressive, you can raise, be aggressive without going all in. I make it in to the money in a very high percentage of tournaments, much higher than average. I will be playing in Tunica at the World Poker Open and the WSOP event. Maybe I will see you all there.. you guys all seem quite cocky so I am sure you will be there to show off. Then again maybe not!
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