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08-22-2007, 12:28 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
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[ QUOTE ] At red rock station the small blind is definitely live. Even more perplexing: a few times I got up to go to the bathroom or take a call after posting the BB, but missing the small, and they let me post the SB - live- on the button. Which makes it so if you ever needed to get up for one hand only (the bathrooms are really close to the limit tables) you could abuse this rule. Other times though they kept the button where it was, made me post a SB just to the left of it, and had three blinds. So it depends on the dealer. I hope I am explaining this correctly..... [/ QUOTE ] I've played at Red Rock, I don't recall this to be true. [/ QUOTE ] If you mean whether the SB is live - it is defintely live - I would bet 235420398503285 million dollars on that. Just trust me on the whole post - before the rake increase pissed me off I played exclusively in the limit games there. 
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08-22-2007, 12:14 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
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Missed small blind is dead and that's the only scheme that makes sense to me. Otherwise you get to play your small blind from much better position without penalty. [/ QUOTE ] I am sure Bob knows this also, that is why I was so suprised to see he has it written that way.
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08-22-2007, 12:19 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
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that is why I was so surprised to see he has it written that way. [/ QUOTE ] RR - if the post was live then the SB has a significant advantage by always sitting out and instead playing the cutoff with a 1/2 bet, this would be the worlds greatest angle if it was allowed. Bob must have had a senior moment, he knows better than this.
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#4
08-22-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
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[ QUOTE ] Missed small blind is dead and that's the only scheme that makes sense to me. Otherwise you get to play your small blind from much better position without penalty. [/ QUOTE ] I am sure Bob knows this also, that is why I was so suprised to see he has it written that way. [/ QUOTE ] But don't you miss your button hand and have to re-enter at the cut-off? You're skipping the best possible position on the table each orbit to avoid paying the blinds in turn? I'd love it if someone wanted to do that to me -- let it be live...
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#5
08-22-2007, 12:17 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
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Missed small blind is dead and that's the only scheme that makes sense to me. Otherwise you get to play your small blind from much better position without penalty. [/ QUOTE ]I was going to say exactly this, but then I thought about how you would be giving up your button. I think it would still be a disadvantage to skip your SB and button and post SB in cutoff, then to play SB, button, cutoff normally. Am I wrong here? I guess it could depend on the game.
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#6
08-22-2007, 01:29 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
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Missed small blind is dead and that's the only scheme that makes sense to me. Otherwise you get to play your small blind from much better position without penalty. [/ QUOTE ] But there's already an inherent penalty in doing this: you get two less hands every round. q/q
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#7
08-22-2007, 11:10 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
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Missed small blind is dead and that's the only scheme that makes sense to me. Otherwise you get to play your small blind from much better position without penalty. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. I would never take a bathroom break again unless my small blind came up. Edit Although if I can buy the button, I would rather miss the blinds and do that.
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#8
08-22-2007, 11:13 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
I'm starting to think that you should be able to post the SB live. Sure, you play the SB from better position by posting it, but you would get to play the cutoff anyway. Also, you get two fewer hands, one of which is the button and you never know when you'll pick up AA in the SB. You post the same amount of money and play fewer hands, I don't see where the advantage is gained.
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#10
08-22-2007, 01:21 AM
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Re: I disagree with Bob Ciaffone. Who is right?
I've had this discussion repeatedly on my staff, and I think that Ciaffone has it right.
The key principle is to protect the other players from a forced raise. When posting BB+SB, the SB must be posted dead. Otherwise, the other players would have to call a forced raise (SB amount) on top of the regular bet (BB) to enter the pot. When posting only the SB, this is no longer the case, so the SB should remain live (just as if it had been posted normally). q/q
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