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Old 10-16-2007, 06:13 AM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default TP reraised pot vs TAG

Villain is 23/19/10 over 667 hands, I should be an unknown to him and this is my first orbit at the table. PF isn't standard but is something I do time to time. I think betting the turn is prob best but I wanted KK/QQ to value bet or air to bluff the river. FWIW I think his range calling pf OOP is fairly tight.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $406.30
Hero (BTN): $396
SB: $400
BB: $412.65
UTG: $736.70
MP: $400

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, <font color="red">Hero raises to $62</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $48, CO folds

Flop: ($144) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($144) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($144) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $144</font>, Hero?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

As played I think you have to call the river, if he turns over a bdfd or a random 2x hand ?? 22 (is that even in his range) then curse yourself for not betting turn otherwise just be happy with all the value you got by checking behind the turn.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:33 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

I don't think any 2's are in this guy's range, neither are low pp's IMO, this is flush/set/maaaaybe AK/air
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

Surely he would have bet 44/55/JJ on the turn unless he has whiffed 2/cr's. I still think we have to call here because we've under repped our hand so much by checking behind twice.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

we're underrepping a pretty weak hand so i dont know if you have to call here. personally, id fold given the action. I think beting 112 or so on the turn and checking behind the river would be my typical line.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

Is this just me who likes a bet on the flop? His PSB on the river screams monster/bluff. I have to put him on AsXs to play this way. Anything else I think he must be very tricky to try a second c/r line
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

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Villain is 23/19/10 over 667 hands, I should be an unknown to him and this is my first orbit at the table. PF isn't standard but is something I do time to time. I think betting the turn is prob best but I wanted KK/QQ to value bet or air to bluff the river. FWIW I think his range calling pf OOP is fairly tight.

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i call river but arent that pleased/displeased either way.


if u think villain can have KK/QQ, a pf squeeze is borederline retarded. i'd just call preflop often.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

How can we have any idea pre whether MP has KK/QQ/anything else, he just opened raise. Based on his play POST squeeze, OP maybe can infer likelihood of MP having said hands.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: TP reraised pot vs TAG

Bet the turn &gt; calling a river bet in my eyes, but I still think we prob have to call and at least make a note on what he's trying to c/r the turn with; IF he is, his line looks really polarized into a bluff or set only maaaybe bdfd but obv that's unlikely.


I think you can discount KK/QQ from villains range once he pots the river unless he is doing so as a bluff.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:26 AM
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if u think villain can have KK/QQ, a pf squeeze is borederline retarded. i'd just call preflop often.

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Well he open raised pf so yeah he could have those, his range should be pretty wide though and the squeeze should be profitable I believe.
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