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Old 11-04-2007, 10:34 PM
Casper05 Casper05 is offline
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Default river value shove vs unknown

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Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $354.90
Hero (CO): $213.95
BTN: $127.05
SB: $187
BB: $243
UTG: $193

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $2, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($21) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, UTG calls $16

Turn: ($53) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $38</font>, UTG calls $38

River: ($129) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero thinks for 3 seconds and shoves</font> (a pot sized bet for villain)
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

Easy river check, I'd say.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

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Easy river check, I'd say.

[/ QUOTE ]just because 67 got there? He either has a draw, pair+draw, or J...right?
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

I'd need a better read to range-merge value showdown tax shove.
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

def not an "easy river check" considering UTG rarely has a better hand, and also because people will call light with pair+busted draw type hands. I think a shove kinda takes away from that, so I like a ~1/2 pot bet.
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

w/ moss
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

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Easy river check, I'd say.

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lol wtf?
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

looks good. oh well if you get value-stacked, you need to be getting value in spots like this.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:02 AM
AFennewald AFennewald is offline
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

Yeah looks fine. He very seldom has a worse hand. I usaully assume unkowns are not very good so i err on the side of agressive value beting. The limp call pre also indicates he is probebly not that good.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: river value shove vs unknown

I like it.
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