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Old 01-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t1255)
CO (t2195)
Button (t4420)
SB (t3560)
Hero (t1480)
UTG (t1265)
UTG+1 (t1395)
MP1 (t390)
MP2 (t3215)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t170, Button folds, SB calls t170.

Flop: (t660) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t210</font>, SB calls t210, Hero folds.

Table full of the usual loose maniacs.

I feel fairly comfortable playing this situation early in a low buy-in STT but not sure here. I wouldn't mind taking it down preflop seeing as I'll be OOP but that's unlikely with these calling stations.

Does anybody just check preflop and play this for set value?

I suppose I could bet a little less and still hope to narrow the field while keeping the pot a little smaller.

What is your standard play here early on?
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:52 PM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

Raise more PF, but with 2 others on board, I check/fold like you did. Well done.
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Old 01-12-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

PF raise seems ok to me, a little bigger wouldn't hurt. Being out of position after the flop with 2 callers = c/f fold for me in this spot.

FWIW I would never play JJ for set value in this spot. Though i'm sure someone on here could make a good arguement for it.
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Old 01-12-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

You need to make a very juicy raise here. Your raise is not very bad, and most of the time it will narrow the field down some. I still prefer a slightly larger raise here, to something like t260.

Your flop play is standard.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:00 PM
SuperUberBob SuperUberBob is offline
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

I have had a surprsing amount of success with shoving preflop with my big hands over a whole bunch of limpers. It's amazing how many people limp and then call a preflop all-in.

There aren't enough limpers here to make this move, but yeah you have to make a nice-sized raise here (like 250-300). Postflop as played.
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Old 01-13-2007, 01:58 AM
Jiggymike Jiggymike is offline
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

This is fine, raise more PF but I'm not surprised by a few callers.
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:52 AM
ZJ123 ZJ123 is offline
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

in a 4.40 i shove preflop. 11 or 22. make it 250.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:23 AM
Looshius Looshius is offline
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

I like the play, and the raise PF seems pretty standard, maybe a to 240 or so but you'd get the same action. Low flop and you're golden, see overcards and you check/fold like you did.
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Old 01-13-2007, 07:57 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

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in a 4.40 i shove preflop. 11 or 22. make it 250.

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Can't say I agree... If it was the 25/50 level I'd like a shove more.
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: $4/180, Early Game, JJ in the BB with Limpers

I agree. Might go as high as 250-300 pre-flop, but seems ok otherwise.
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