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Old 06-18-2006, 04:20 PM
Fiddler Fiddler is offline
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Default ATo defense

Unknown villain but probably on the tight side. I've also been pretty tight at the table.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, ...

Easy call? Easy fold? Easy check-through to begin with?
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Old 06-18-2006, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: ATo defense

He probably would have raised with a J earlier and a flush is also quite unlikely, so I'd call this while throwing my keyboard out of the window or baning my head against the wall.

Many players seem to be obliged to pull off some FPS bluffs with that river...
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Old 06-18-2006, 04:50 PM
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I think this is an easy fold because nobody ever folds here.

EDIT: easy value bet though as he'll call with lots of hands you beat, like PPs, worse Ts, A-high, etc
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Old 06-18-2006, 04:56 PM
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I call.
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Old 06-18-2006, 06:24 PM
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I call but I probably don't make this bet on the river being the weak tight nit that I am. I belive that you probably have the best hand and he may be making this raise with hands such as KT or QT.
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Old 06-18-2006, 06:25 PM
El Ishmael El Ishmael is offline
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I'd call. It'll be a bluff often enough in my experience, especially in a blind battle scenario.
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Old 06-18-2006, 07:06 PM
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I've been getting bluff-raised on the river a fair amount lately, and that's a bluff-raise kind of card, so I would call.

But that's late-night LAG Party 5/10, and Stars may be different.

In any case, the fact that it's a river checkraise (rather than just a raise) makes me somewhat more pessimistic, and I do figure Villain probably backed into a flush. Edit: Another possibility is that he was sandbagging the whole way.
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Old 06-18-2006, 07:24 PM
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I think this is an easy fold because nobody ever folds here.

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Great thought process here, RDH, but he'd have to be a really good player for me to lay it down here and put him on that line of thinking.
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:56 AM
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... I folded. Not sure I should have though so I called down a couple of other raises he made after that.
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Old 06-19-2006, 12:18 PM
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I payoff like an ATM on the river here.
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