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Old 11-03-2007, 08:44 PM
agoldenbear agoldenbear is offline
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Default Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

So I just had this happen to me in a 50NL FR game on UB. UTG raises to 16BB!! and gets shoved on by three players, including myself.

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Hand #47464821-7459 at Blount (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 03/Nov/07 20:23:59

GimmeFiction is at seat 1 with $64.05.
(UTG Villain) Rwxiang is at seat 2 with $49.50.
spkaylee is at seat 3 with $24.70.
Sir Vive is at seat 4 with $11.
BBYMASM is at seat 5 with $33.95.
TWTS is at seat 6 with $8.75.
xCCx is at seat 8 with $49.50.
(HERO) don caballero is at seat 9 with $57.80.
The button is at seat 8.

don caballero posts the small blind of $.25.
GimmeFiction posts the big blind of $.50.

GimmeFiction: -- --
Rwxiang: -- --
spkaylee: -- --
Sir Vive: -- --
BBYMASM: -- --
TWTS: -- --
xCCx: -- --
don caballero: Kc Kh

Pre-flop:

Rwxiang raises to $8. spkaylee folds. Sir Vive goes
all-in for $11. BBYMASM folds. TWTS folds. xCCx
folds. don caballero goes all-in for $57.80.
GimmeFiction calls. Rwxiang goes all-in for $49.50.


Flop (board: 8d Qd Td):

(no action in this round)


Turn (board: 8d Qd Td 2h):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 8d Qd Td 2h 9h):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

don caballero shows Kc Kh.
don caballero has Kc Kh Qd Td 9h: a pair of kings.
GimmeFiction shows Ks Kd.
GimmeFiction has Ks Kd Qd Td 9h: a pair of kings.
Rwxiang shows Ah Ac.
Rwxiang has Ah Ac Qd Td 9h: a pair of aces.
Sir Vive shows Js Jc.
Sir Vive has Js 8d Qd Td 9h: straight, queen high.


Hand #47464821-7459 Summary:

$3 is raked from a total pot of $176.10.
$2.20 is raked from the main pot of $44.
$.80 is raked from side pot #1 of $115.50.
$0 is raked from side pot #2 of $16.60.
$.50 jackpot contribution is raked.
Sir Vive wins the main pot $41.30 with straight, queen high.
Rwxiang wins side pot #1 $114.70 with a pair of aces.
GimmeFiction wins side pot #2 $8.30 of a $16.60 pot with a pair of kings.
don caballero wins side pot #2 $8.30 of a $16.60 pot with a pair of kings.

Doesn't this sequence of events seem strange? An UTG raise to $8 (16BB) with AA when two players have KK behind him and another has JJ. I dunno man. Weird. Should I contact UB or is this not so extraordinary?
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:46 PM
ShipitFMA ShipitFMA is offline
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

go away, seriously....
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

Seemed strange to me. Most people don't open raise to 16BB with AA UTG, and that's a lot of big hands yet to act. I'm not trying to say it's rigged, obviously I don't believe that; the title was a joke, and the whole post is more or less a joke, it just seemed curious.

feel free to unbunch your panties whenever the mood strikes
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:06 PM
ShipitFMA ShipitFMA is offline
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

You got outplayed...sorry
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

Standard fold PF imo.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:09 PM
toddxlogan toddxlogan is offline
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

Everyone put on your tin foil hats!

(But seriously.... are you serious, or is this a potripper level?)
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

gimmefiction has an interesting spot i think

KK, UTG gives a 16xBB raise, an all in reraise from MP, and a shove over that from SB and youre sitting with KK...
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:19 PM
toddxlogan toddxlogan is offline
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

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gimmefiction has an interesting spot i think

KK, UTG gives a 16xBB raise, an all in reraise from MP, and a shove over that from SB and youre sitting with KK...

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If MP wasn't a shorty i'd actually give tossing some consideration. But seeing as a 16bb open raise is AK 16 times and AA six times as well as some other random crap sometimes, MP is a shorty with anything, and SB may well see this as a ridiculously good squeeze opportunity, I call pretty quickly here with KK (though not neccessarily fistpumping).

Not to say it isn't a pretty interesting KK pf situation, as far as those go (which isn't very far). This is about as close as I will come to folding KK pf without actually doing it, I guess. Note that I am yet to ever fold KK pf. Thoughts?
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

At these limits there really is no reason to ever fold KK pf anything short of being deep and seeing this action in front of you.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Coincidence or foul play? Strange Action and Many Big Hands

are you serious? You can't fold here. barely more than 100 BB deep, are you actually putting the guy that raised 16X BB utg on AA?
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