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Old 11-28-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default KK deep

vill: drgiggy
I would put up my notes but I know he posts here
runs at 33/28/4.35 over 5k

I have never seen him 4 bet cold bf like this but he over pushes to 4 bets with bad hands sometimes.

is this profitable?


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BB ($386)
UTG ($394)
MP ($799)
Hero ($1016.50)
Button ($1482.60)
SB ($152.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $48</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $102.

Flop: ($320) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $210</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $866.5 (All-In)</font>, ???? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

call? raise? fold? lead?
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:55 AM
dagreez dagreez is offline
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Default Re: KK deep

not sure how he sees you but i don't think it matters much. i just saw him four bet shove 100bb's with aq so i'm assuming QQ and AK are in his fourbet range. seems fine to me.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

If it is a rational player and you dont have an image of a maniac, I dont think you will ever see anything but AA here from the villain. I would 5 bet pf and try to get it all in btw .
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

I'd be pretty tempted to call and give him another chance to bomb the turn against a villian that aggro. If you call there's about one PSB behind it may look like a perfect spot for him to try to bomb you off a mid pair. If he has AA you gotta go broke against this guy.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

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I'd be pretty tempted to call and give him another chance to bomb the turn against a villian that aggro. If you call there's about one PSB behind it may look like a perfect spot for him to try to bomb you off a mid pair. If he has AA you gotta go broke against this guy.

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This sounds pretty good. Also what's your image at the table? That should affect a lot of things
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

I just shove pre. You're going to talk yourself out of a lot of flops. If you concede you're putting it in anyway, just shove and let him call stupidly with AK/AQ.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

This is a hand I'd go broke with. You guys are really deep and he has the button, so he can definitely 4-bet light here.

I like the idea of just calling the flop. He might find it irrestible to bet again, thinking he can really rep AA.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

my image is taggy but stationy as well
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:15 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

I'm going broke here every time, but calling and check/calling a turn shove seems like a far better option since you give him the opportunity to do something dumb. By shoving the flop here he can play perfectly against us IMO. When he calls the flop shove he has AA almost every time.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: KK deep

calling the flop is most +ev
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