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Old 05-06-2007, 01:12 AM
kleath kleath is offline
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Default $16 99 bubble situation

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t3275)
UTG (t8740)
Hero (t895)
SB (t590)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t600</font>


What do I do here with sb so short but me short also? was confused by this situation earlier, looking back on it now I think its a clear call, but ima post it up anyways to confirm/deny
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:23 AM
SquishyPeach SquishyPeach is offline
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

Yea i think you have to call, its to hard to just sit back and wait for the shortie to go out...I call here
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

I think i would just call here. you are able to just chill and wait for SB to bust. You have a good hand here, and UTG should be on almost 100%
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Old 05-06-2007, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

I would fold, lots of randoms aren't raising 100% here, and the fact that he raised to 600 instead of just open shoved makes it less likely he is one of those people who pushbots, and more likely he just has a reasonable hand.

Just stick this hand through ICM and pretend he has gone allin, and he needs to be 'pushing' 90% - i don't think randoms are raising 52o here, so even if we give him a 70% raising range it would be a fold (and even then i'm not too sure how many people raise 94s and Q2o here)

If he is good and you know his range is 100% then get allin, but you have to be pretty damn sure its actually 100% for this to be correct.
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Old 05-06-2007, 05:20 AM
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

i like a fold here cuz ur on button and bb may call very loose as well.
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:22 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

I didn't ICM it, but it looks like a fold (see Echo's explanation).
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

You have no folding equity, so I'll treat this as an all in call. According to SNG power tools, this is a fold. Even if villain is betting 100% you need TT+ to call.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

First off I'm not really sure if people are meaning really call (as in 600 of your 895) or all-in having no FE, calling here is horrible so just get it all in if you play the hand.

I definitley fold this hand, regardless of villain being on a wide range with the current stacks the SB will have to put his chips on the line first. I don't see a reason with a hand that isn't necessarily far ahead (or ahead at all) to be risking bubbling.

If you get in the SB will always fold here, and if you fold the SB will always get called if he pushes. Worry about doubling up and risking your stack if the SB gets all in and wins a hand.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: $16 99 bubble situation

Apparently my instincts were better than my brain because my instincts made me fold, thought it was a call afterwards because I was so short as well.
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