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Old 11-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Knock*u*down Knock*u*down is offline
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

why attack me personally ? Can you at least try to make an argument instead of just insulting me. Also i am not a passive player but blind aggression without a reason is still not any good.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

go back and read the OP and pay attention to the game dynamics description. if you can't figure it out i'm not gonna throw you a bone.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

so please do that then. curious to hear ur thoughts
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

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why attack me personally ? Can you at least try to make an argument instead of just insulting me. Also i am not a passive player but blind aggression without a reason is still not any good.

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OP shouldn't be calling preflop unless the villain is 3 betting with a wide range, thus cbetting this flop with a range wider than AK AA KK etc.

If he's not, we're calling preflop without getting implied odds with a blah hand. If you flop big with it against the villains wide range, a shove on the flop is somewhat standard...
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:51 PM
Knock*u*down Knock*u*down is offline
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

I agree with you a 100% that as described his range is wide but imho the quesion is how light will he call here or turnbet if he folds everything but AA KK AK the shove could be right. You agree that when he calls light checking behind is the much better play ?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

I'd just raise the flop and get it in. As played I'd def jam the turn.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:59 PM
Knock*u*down Knock*u*down is offline
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

Could you please just give a short reasoning why you would do that please ?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:59 PM
Bikini Wax Bikini Wax is offline
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

shoving flop folds out a good % of his 3betting range - and yes shove
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Shove turn or take the free card?

If you think his range is too strong on this type of flop to making shoving a profitable play, then you probably should have folded to the 3b preflop.
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