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11-21-2007, 08:25 PM
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TPTK do I call down here?
Villain is a tag I've played a decent amount with, pretty aggressive but nothing crazy. Preflop I typically 3bet but sometimes just call like I did here. Thoughts on my postflop line? Couldn't see any other lines to take, but the board is pretty scary and calling down doesn't seem great either given how often the board is going to go to hell. I lucked out though and the board didn't change on the turn/river. So am I forced to call river or what?
FWIW we had a pretty interesting hand several months ago where he made a big call with TPTK on a four flush board against me in a 3bet pot and was right. The rest of our history is standard 3betting and stuff, but we haven't been out of line against one another. Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter CO: $479.50 BTN: $929 SB: $518.20 Hero (BB): $487 UTG: $415.40 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB) 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $12 Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28 Turn: ($90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $76</font>, Hero calls $76 River: ($242) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $180</font> 
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11-21-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: TPTK do I call down here?
I think we are getting value-towned. If he is at least a thinking player doesn't he know that that is an innocuous turn and river and that since you called the flop and the turn the river likely changed nothing and that you are calling again?
Is this a decent spot for a turn bet of $60?
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#5
11-21-2007, 10:23 PM
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Re: TPTK do I call down here?
I fold the turn. This is a bad spot for him to be double barreling with a draw, and he probably on this board won't push it too far with anything you beat, like KQ or a combo draw.
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#6
11-21-2007, 10:42 PM
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Re: TPTK do I call down here?
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I fold the turn. This is a bad spot for him to be double barreling with a draw, and he probably on this board won't push it too far with anything you beat, like KQ or a combo draw. [/ QUOTE ] Are you serious? So many draws missed, you have about the top of your range here, you pretty much have to call I think.
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#8
11-22-2007, 12:24 AM
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Re: TPTK do I call down here?
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I think we are getting value-towned. If he is at least a thinking player doesn't he know that that is an innocuous turn and river and that since you called the flop and the turn the river likely changed nothing and that you are calling again? [/ QUOTE ] wtf are you talking about? you do realize that the flop was drawy as hell, the turn made it even wetter, and every single draw missed on the river cawl
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#9
11-22-2007, 12:30 AM
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Re: TPTK do I call down here?
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Are you serious? So many draws missed, you have about the top of your range here, you pretty much have to call I think. [/ QUOTE ] The turn or the river?
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#10
11-22-2007, 12:32 AM
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Re: TPTK do I call down here?
If we get to the river like this, we do have to call, because our read is he'll 2 barrel here with a draw, so presumably he'll 3 barrel too.
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