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Old 11-03-2007, 02:54 PM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : Push with 44

Without checking SNGPT...what kind of ranges is 66 not profitable to push against?

I don't care about patience - if I see value, I grab it.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : Push with 44

guys this is a really easy shove if hes just limp/folding all the time, but if hes not 44 does not have enough value to play for stacks when getting limp/called wide, your stack is still in great shape and im in no hurry to flip for stacks all the time in this spot if i fear thats what happens with this guy. 66/77+ seems about right otherwise.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : Push with 44

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Without checking SNGPT...what kind of ranges is 66 not profitable to push against?

I don't care about patience - if I see value, I grab it.

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SNGPT won't do calculations with a limper i front.

I WIZ'ed it though, and found that if limper limps 40%, but only calls your push with 88+, AQo+, AJs+, and SB and BB calls with AQ+, 99+, it's only + 0,27 %. Widen the limpers' overcall range some, and you are quicly getting it - EV. The above ranges are pretty tight imo.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : Push with 44

aghasax: I was under the impression the 77+ talk was concering no limper.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : Push with 44

I fold pre w/o thinking twice.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: 16$ : Push with 44

I need to start thinking twice because I have a bad habit of pushing in these spots and getting called by KT. It's a rule of poker that donkeys who call with overcards will always flop one or other against me, regardless that they were behind preflop.
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