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Old 10-15-2007, 08:21 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

Villian is 23.21/20.54/4 postflop agg. over 112 hands about 2/3 at 100NL and 1/3 at 50NL.

Villian's 3bet me several times at this table and I've folded pre-flop each time.


So: call? fold? reasons. Anything wrong with the hand before the river?



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($96.85)
UTG ($100)
Hero ($101)
CO ($124.35)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($129.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($29) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($69) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($69) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $46</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

Given hes 3 bet you several times already, i would probably 4 bet preflop and be prepared to get it in.

As played i would call the river seeing as how weak you've played it and how aggressive he seems.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:32 PM
corin corin is offline
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Default Re: 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

REALLY, 4 BET PRE HERE!!

As played, smooth call cbet on flop, check behind turn...

I actually fold this river. We beat a bluff only. Villain probably puts us on a medium PP or maybe flush, I think a bluff of this value is less likely than normal here.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:36 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

I'm folding the river here. villain seems decent from his stats/3betting history so I'll assume he expects you to make a stand eventually and based on that realizes this is a terrible spot to bluff.

really don't like 4betting preflop as someone mentioned
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

I might 4-bet pre given history, but calling is fine too.

flop and turn are standard as played. i'm really tempted to call the river here. I find it hard to believe that an aggro player would check an overpair on the turn given the drawy nature of the board.

also, if he's thinking at all, you played your hand exactly like a pair between 8s and Qs, so he might be trying to push you off it.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

I call real fast, the only reason to call the flop is if you plan to call in this type of spot.

The rest looks fine.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:23 AM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

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the only reason to call the flop is if you plan to call in this type of spot.

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eh...this is wrong.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: 100NL; JJ in 3bet pot vs. TAG facing river bet

I'm calling here.
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