Suggestions/discussion of new FAQ for forum

[lucky_mf]

OK - there is a bunch of useful stuff on abbreviations and jargon in the MSN sticky that you might be able to copy. Additionally - AJmargarine (sp?), one of the SSN forum mods, has a tread posted somewhere with all sorts of jargon type things in there. You might pm him/her and ask for the link.

Lucky

[KurtSF]

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His position has been that the stickies and FAQs here represent "official" 2+2 positions, and he doesn't want to vouch for books from other publishers.

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So just link to threads in the Books forum where beginner books and sequences and relative merits are discussed. There's enough of them.

Also, I would be willing to help write or edit any part of the FAQ. I think the Beginners forum can be an integral and great part of the 2+2 community, to welcome and incorporate new players and new members alike, and would be happy to devote some time and energy toward that goal.

[Teddie]

Heres a link to some abbreviations from the MSNL sticky.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=5988672

[SheridanCat]

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So just link to threads in the Books forum where beginner books and sequences and relative merits are discussed. There's enough of them.


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This is a recommended reading list. By definition you'll be making a judgement that it should be included. I'm not understanding how linking to a thread makes it not a recommendation. That was the point of Mason's objection in the past.

[SheridanCat]

What is Pot Equity?

Pot equity is your percentage chance of winning the pot at any given point in a hand. That percentage is the amount of equity you have in the pot or how much of the pot "belongs to you".

Here's a Texas Hold 'em example. You hold AsAh and you have a single opponent with what could be any hand. Your pot equity against a random hand is about 85%, meaning that if you both pushed all-in and the hand went to the showdown you can expect to win about 85% of the time. Notice that this is for a run all the way to the river with no strategy discussion and no chance of anyone folding to scare cards. The effect is the same as if both players agreed to check all the way. Pot equity does not tell you anything about numbers of bets you can expect to win.

You're not always up against a random hand, of course. If my opponent calls my raise with my AsAh above, I can start to put her on some hands which will eat away a bit at my pot equity.

You probably won't be figuring pot equity at the table. You'll mostly be figuring it after the fact when you wonder how good your AKs was against someone's ATo (answer 75%). Use a tool such as PokerStove for help in figuring your pot equity.

Pot equity has some use at the table. Primarily it lets you know how much of the pot "belongs to you," as mentioned above. When you know your equity, you can compare it to your "fair share" which is just the pot size divided by the number of people in the hand. So, when you start a hand with pocket aces and have three opponents, you know that your fair share is about 25% but your pot equity is around 85%. Therefore, all bets that go into the pot earn you more than your fair share. This is especially useful when you're trying to determine whether to check/call vs. bet/raise with a flush draw. If you have many players in, your pot equity (the chance you'll win the hand, which is directly related to you making the flush) vs. your fair share may warrant a bet/raise rather than a check/call. That is, every bet you put in and get called is, theoretically, extra money for you when your pot equity is higher than your fair share.

What is Pot Odds?

Pot odds are quite simply the odds offered by the pot, that is, the ratio of money you will win if you win the pot compared to the amount you would have to bet to remain in the pot.

For instance, after the turn in hold'em there are 7 big bets in the pot when the betting gets to you. You have four cards to the nut flush. You have to put in 1 bet to continue, so we say the pot is giving you 7:1 (pronounced "7 to 1") odds. Compare that to your approximately 4:1 chance to make your flush on the next card. Since your chance of making the flush is better than the odds being given by the pot, you should call. What if there had been very little betting and there were only 3 big bets in the pot when the action got to you? The pot would be giving you 3:1 odds versus 4:1 to make your flush. Your odds are not better than the pot odds, thus the correct action is to fold.

The same calculations can help you decide if you should call after all the cards are out. Instead of comparing the pot odds to the odds of making your hand you have to compare the pot odds to the odds that your hand is good.

What are Implied Odds

Implied odds are odds taking into account bets you will win on future rounds if you hit your hand.

For instance, the odds against making your hand might be 7.5:1 against with immediate pot odds (expressed odds) of 4.5:1. However, if you believe your opponents will call you down or allow you to sneak in a checkraise, you can count those bets in the current size of the pot to establish whether a play is correct or not.

Whereas implied odds are important to consider in all forms of poker, they take on special significance in big-bet games such as no-limit hold'em. It's not an exaggeration to say that winning at large-stack no-limit depends on the implied odds derived from getting poor opponents to pay off your monster hands. For example, if you play a highly speculative hand such as a small pair or connectors, you may well be willing to pay "too much" (judging by limit hold'em standards) to see a flop. When you do hit, if your opponents will pay off most or all of their stacks, then you're justified in taking a gamble with positive expected value.

[dcasper70]

There's usually a "How do I build a table" post about once a month. A list of posts or external links would be nice.

This thread has a lot of those links.

[King Spew]

Otts,, good job.

For beginners that click on the FAQ link you need to have a category in BOLD near the top that states:

DO NOT SIGN UP TO PLAY ONLINE UNTIL YOU READ:

then post a few links outlining bonii and rakeback.

Absolutely essential that noobs make an informed decision in regards to the importance of the two.

[Teddie]

How do i add favourite topics to my control panel?

[bobbyi]

Here is a recent thread discussing that we can't have recommended reading list.

[ottsville]

I think it's safe to recommend that people here start with GSIH. Then HOH 1 & 2 for NL and SSHE/HEPFAP for limit. When they've read those they should be able to determine where to go from there with their reading.