Biggest story of our time: our self-extinction by Mark Steyn

[Rduke55]

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I think this is a common misconception about how our 'caveman forebears' lived. If anything, people today are working more hours today than our ancestors did.

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Mostly because our "caveman forebears" [sic] didn't have as many hours with which to work, since they all died at age 15 from gangrene when they cut their foot on a rock, or they starved to death after their teeth fell out. And that's just the lucky ones who made it past birth. Pretty idyllic.g

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Well said.

[HoldingFolding]

Thanks for that article; very well written. Interesting:

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Those who reject modernity would thus seem to have an evolutionary advantage, whether they are clean-living Mormons or Muslims, or members of emerging sects and national movements that emphasize high birthrates and anti-materialism.


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[EricOF]

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"Civlized people were always brown" Huh?

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I mean that white people were one of the last groups to become civilized. Technology and civilization started in North Africa and the Middle East. The Celtic, Saxon, Germanic, and Nordic tribes have been involved only in the tail end of human advancement.

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Given that Caucasians are a relatively young race, why wouldn't they have been among the last to become civilized? The real point is the level of advancement they ultimately reached.

What we're seeing is dysgenics at work.

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Not that our advances haven't been significant, or that we haven't had some input since at least Roman times, but the human race hardly needs us to get by.

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"Getting by" is rather a low standard. Some of us would prefer a higher one.

[John Kilduff]

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Was the world more polluted when the earliest humans lived in caves? Somehow that seems doubtful.

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You would not need to ask this question if you lived near an indian reservation.

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Haha. But THE ENTIRE WORLD was less polluted when people lived in caves, even if the immediate areas surrounding the caves were more polluted back then.

Six billion people pollute the entire world a lot more than did maybe a couple hundred thousand.

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"Civlized people were always brown" Huh?

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I mean that white people were one of the last groups to become civilized. Technology and civilization started in North Africa and the Middle East. The Celtic, Saxon, Germanic, and Nordic tribes have been involved only in the tail end of human advancement.

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Given that Caucasians are a relatively young race, why wouldn't they have been among the last to become civilized? The real point is the level of advancement they ultimately reached.

What we're seeing is dysgenics at work.

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Not that our advances haven't been significant, or that we haven't had some input since at least Roman times, but the human race hardly needs us to get by.

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"Getting by" is rather a low standard. Some of us would prefer a higher one.

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But we're not talking about how soft your pillow is, we're talking about reproductive success.

[EricOF]

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But we're not talking about how soft your pillow is, we're talking about reproductive success.

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And the ramifications of disparate success, which seemed to be the focus of the OP.