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Old 08-25-2006, 06:29 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: Pot awarded after defective deck found

I would have collected as many names as possible and wrote to the Gaming Commission, explaining all the relavent facts and circumstances and naming the participants, and sent a copy to the Casino Manager. I would expect it likely to receive a letter of apology and my monies returned after that.
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:24 PM
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Now I do find it odd that the high-hand jackpot payouts are not made if a deck is found to have 51 cards. That *IS* in the rules (I saw that one). Seems like either the deck is good enough and the hand plays, or the deck is bad and the hand doesn't play. It shouldn't be good enough to award the pot, but bad enough to skip the high-hand award.

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Everyone contesting for the pot was playing with the same 51 card deck. Assuming the high hand award is a progressive amount the players competing for that were not playing with the same deck.

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In that case, the jackpot drop from this hand should be refunded to the pot.
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Old 08-26-2006, 02:13 PM
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Harrah's blows. They can't run a tournament (WSOP) for [censored] and their cardrooms suck as well.
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Old 08-26-2006, 08:49 PM
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I would have collected as many names as possible and wrote to the Gaming Commission, explaining all the relavent facts and circumstances and naming the participants, and sent a copy to the Casino Manager. I would expect it likely to receive a letter of apology and my monies returned after that.

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That was my intention when I thought they'd ruled incorrectly by awarding the pot. I have the names and pertinent info all typed up and ready to send. But since Bally's rules and Robert's rules state that 51-cards does not invalidate the hand, it's not a matter for Gaming. Bally's followed their own rules, and the apparently commonly accepted rules of many poker rooms, so what are you asking Gaming to do? You want Gaming to rewrite the poker rule book and declare 51-cards does invalidate hands?

Nope... I lost that one fairly. I wasn't upset at losing, I was upset 'cause I came away from Bally's card room with two suits shaking their heads and saying "I'm so sorry we screwed up that ruling, but the decision of the floor is final and we're not changing it" PLUS the serious annoyance of the casino manager then refusing to even talk to the aggrieved players. The first part of that is resolved; they got it right, despite taking a wild guess at it and later incorrectly second guessing themselves. The second part isn't a matter for Gaming.
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Old 08-26-2006, 09:05 PM
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Right, there's no excuse for them dicking around and acting like they pulled some arbitrary solution out of their posterior.

As it happened, the arbitrary solution was also correct. Stopped clock, &c &c.
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