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#11
10-30-2007, 04:10 PM
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Re: 100NL: Float on Paired Board
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[ QUOTE ] can villian think? [/ QUOTE ] He appears to be a first-level thinker. I fold the turn if he bets $10+, but doesn't a half-pot bet on both streets seem either really weak or really strong? (And yes, if he calls the turn and checks to me on the river, I'm obviously insta-shoving.) [/ QUOTE ] is there a gap-in-logic here? ur sayyin his bet is either super strong or super weak. what makes u think him callin weakens his range? and if hes first level, hes probably snap callin any bet on the river if he calls the turn (not tryyin to insult. just tryying to make sense of it) 
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#12
10-30-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: 100NL: Float on Paired Board
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] can villian think? [/ QUOTE ] He appears to be a first-level thinker. I fold the turn if he bets $10+, but doesn't a half-pot bet on both streets seem either really weak or really strong? (And yes, if he calls the turn and checks to me on the river, I'm obviously insta-shoving.) [/ QUOTE ] is there a gap-in-logic here? ur sayyin his bet is either super strong or super weak. what makes u think him callin weakens his range? and if hes first level, hes probably snap callin any bet on the river if he calls the turn (not tryyin to insult. just tryying to make sense of it) [/ QUOTE ] It depends really. I see a lot of guys at this level call a turn bet to fold to a second river bet. Since he's a first level thinker, he's not thinking about the river yet, so I don't think a turn call makes it a lock that he calls a brick river. That being said, I'm not sure auto-shoving the river is a +EV bluff, but it's the line I take in that situation about 90% of the time. Is that bad?
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#13
10-30-2007, 04:27 PM
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Re: 100NL: Float on Paired Board
So you're that guy that tries to win every pot. This is just FPS spew and you'll just end up rewarding him for playing like a nit in the long run. He has a friggin pfr of 3% and he just opened UTG.
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#16
10-30-2007, 04:48 PM
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Re: 100NL: Float on Paired Board
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I think there's a very good chance he has what you're representing. [/ QUOTE ] Fold turn. I wouldn't bother [censored] around on the flop though. I prefer to just fold there.
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#17
10-30-2007, 04:56 PM
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Re: 100NL: Float on Paired Board
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] can villian think? [/ QUOTE ] He appears to be a first-level thinker. I fold the turn if he bets $10+, but doesn't a half-pot bet on both streets seem either really weak or really strong? (And yes, if he calls the turn and checks to me on the river, I'm obviously insta-shoving.) [/ QUOTE ] is there a gap-in-logic here? ur sayyin his bet is either super strong or super weak. what makes u think him callin weakens his range? and if hes first level, hes probably snap callin any bet on the river if he calls the turn (not tryyin to insult. just tryying to make sense of it) [/ QUOTE ] It depends really. I see a lot of guys at this level call a turn bet to fold to a second river bet. Since he's a first level thinker, he's not thinking about the river yet, so I don't think a turn call makes it a lock that he calls a brick river. That being said, I'm not sure auto-shoving the river is a +EV bluff, but it's the line I take in that situation about 90% of the time. Is that bad? [/ QUOTE ] its bad against these types of players in general, yes and like Slater said, this is FPS at its finest if ur including the river shove. just take the 1shot turn stab if ur going to do it (and i dont rly condone doin it here)
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#18
10-30-2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: 100NL: Float on Paired Board
So are you guys saying that, after floating a flop, you only make a play at the pot if checked to, or are you saying fold the turn because the villain only raises PF 3% of the time?
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#19
10-30-2007, 07:57 PM
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Re: 100NL: Float on Paired Board
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So are you guys saying that, after floating a flop, you only make a play at the pot if checked to, or are you saying fold the turn because the villain only raises PF 3% of the time? [/ QUOTE ] more that against this type of player, floating isnt that great on this board. and i wud only hype up if checkd to on turn
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