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Old 09-04-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: 3Bet or Disguise?

Call, no reason to raise since its a WA/WB situation
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: 3Bet or Disguise?

I would prolly 3 bet to 24 and then check turn, call or bet river.
If they had made proper bets near the pot size, instead of rid small, then I would like flat calling the rr.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: 3Bet or Disguise?

FWIW, I am quite interested to see results on this one.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: 3Bet or Disguise?

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meh, anything you do looks pretty damn strong here. I probably just call and hope BB comes over the top.

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Why would you hope that, because it most likely means you are beat and can fold?
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: 3Bet or Disguise?

I think the answer is to call on the flop.

Most likely UTG+1 is drawing to 5 outs (Tx) and we are happy to get allin vs his $45.

We don't know where the BB stands as 3x is definitely in his range. We don't want to raise here and reopen the betting to UTG+1, because if we raise, BB calls, UTG+1 pushes (even though we probably beat him), then we are acting here again with BB to act behind us, and it is a horrible spot.

If you are going to raise though, make sure to make it at least $25.05 so that an UTG+1 push does not reopen the betting for the BB to push behind.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:11 PM
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Most likely UTG+1 is drawing to 5 outs (Tx)


[/ QUOTE ]Only if he has AT [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img].
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:49 PM
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FWIW, I am quite interested to see results on this one.

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They are boring. I took pretty much my entire alloted time to decide. I almost smooth called, but what held me back was that it was a ten high flop, so any jack, queen, king, or ace kills the action. I figured a 61/14 might go broke with AT right now because it's TPTK, and that's unbeatable, but any higher card on the turn might force him to fold. Had it been J-3-3 or Q-3-3, I definitely would have smooth called.

I 3bet (I forget to what, but it was between $25 and $30), and the dickbag BB typed in the chat, "AT no good?" He took all of his time before folding, and then UTG+1 took all of HIS time and folded. I was pretty furious with the BB for saying his hand in the chat (I'm pretty sure UTG+1 had T-x), and being a typical 61/14 douche, he was mildly apologetic at best.

I wished that I had smooth called pretty much the instant after I 3bet. My problem is that I play for stacks way too much, and that's what I was shooting for here. Had I not been so greedy (I'm working on this), I probably could have squeezed more out of the BB. I suck.
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