Playing against a light 3 bettor

[Barrin6]

Reason why I wanted to know was that I didn't want to let him hit any overcards vs me such as TJ,QK,AK,AJ,AT,9t. By doing this, I sometimes fold better hands such as 99-JJ and protects my hand. So in a sense it's a value shove against his wide 3 betting range. In a sense i'm protecting my hand.

[Some9]

its fine. but as someone else said, 65s is better.

[atmstuck]

yeah I agree with that 65s is better. Jowever, I think it's tough to call with JJ~99 on this flop without history. A light 3 bettor doesn't fold any Q here for sure. Under these circumstances I like your play.

[Barrin6]

Board: 6c 4s Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 09.678% 09.68% 00.00% 4599 0.00 { 8d8h }
Hand 1: 90.322% 90.32% 00.00% 42921 0.00 { QQ+, 66, 44, AQs, KQs, QJs, AQo, KQo }






EV if villain folds to shove=$89

If i shove, I have 9.68% to win

EV of shoving and being behind
EV=(9.68%)(416)+(90%)(-183)
EV=40.26-164
EV=-124$


Fold equity to make it neutral ev? Where x= fold equity%

0=x(89)+(1-x)(-$124)
0=89-124+124x
0=124x-35
35=124x
x=28%

So I need him to fold more than 28% of time to make this good. And I really think against his wide light 3betting range, this makes it really +EV

[Suwalski]

Just call flopbet, if you insist on playing for stacks, you can also call his turnshove.

[Barrin6]

For people who don't know, AK has an equity of 10% of so against his calling range if we shove.

[Barrin6]

And wow with 85hh you have 19% equity against his range.

[Barrin6]

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Just call flopbet, if you insist on playing for stacks, you can also call his turnshove.

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You can't protect your hand. What hands is he going to shove here on the turn? Plus too many hands that will kill me.

catch my drift?

[Dire]

In the grand scheme of things, it's a whole lot easier to exploit a guy who's version of adjusting to a light 3-bettor is calling preflop and then calling off his stack with underpairs on dry flops, than it is to exploit a guy who starts raising a wider range on the flop / 4-betting preflop / etc.. I much prefer raising this flop rather than calling and planning to stack off on most turns if only for this reason.

[kaby]

yeah what dire said, gl guessing whether you are getting valueshoved or 2nd barreled on basicly any turn (but the decision is obv harder on overcards) ...

i'm not sure 88 (10% equity vs his callrange) is the best hand to do it with, both AK (14%) and 65s (23%) are a lot better imho

btw: to everyone who is calling a 3bet pf with a wide range and shoving a lot flops to make up for it, you call 3bet pf/shove flop with QQ+ too right?