***** November LC Thread *****

[daveT]

Stars is more of a rock garden. I think the faster structure at Tilt makes people feel forced to gamble up more.

..... and yes, the betpot button is probably the biggest contributor. If it came to otherwise equal opponent's the one who doesn't get lazy first will probably win. I get lazy sometimes. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[hra146]

WOW, ... long time ago I felt this upset about a match.

The WORST player on earth. He couldve played with his holecards face up and I wouldnt have changed my plays. Game continues till 100/200 and I lose.

[Insane_Steve]

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the betpot button

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we have a winner

Seriously, betting full pot is an overbet in most situations imo, and thus people on FTP appear more aggro because they're betting more every time they bet, where a smaller amount (2/3rds-3/4ths pot usually) accomplishes the same thing.

[hra146]

yeah but it also makes for a good betsizing preflop in the early stages. And for postflop Id rather have the typical stars 1/5, 1/6 psb-bettor than being hit by a full psb pretty much whenever they bet.

I guess even if overbetting is just as bad as underbetting it def. makes for sick variance.

[cwar]

Potting preflop on FT is a mistake IMO at least in the turbos.

[hra146]

mh... what does it start with? 15/30 no? I wouldnt pot it then with less than 1k effective stacks but is it really a mistake in the beginning?

I mean I was always more inclined to raise 2.5x in the beginning and eventually 2x but I thought it was just a matter of styles.

[shat4brains]

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Potting preflop on FT is a mistake IMO at least in the turbos.

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whats ur standard raise?

[hra146]

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Potting preflop on FT is a mistake IMO at least in the turbos.

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whats ur standard raise?

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hes gonna tell you that there is no, and that there shouldnt be a standard raise. And hes probably right as well.

[cwar]

Actually not varying my raise sizes is probaby a leak I have, I am almost always minraising sometimes with some 2.5xs at 15/30.

[hra146]

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Actually not varying my raise sizes is probaby a leak I have, I am almost always minraising sometimes with some 2.5xs at 15/30.

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yeah okay, that makes sense.

For me at stars its 3x at the 10/20 level and 2.5x at the 15/30 unless effective stacks are too shallow. Minraise after that.

Then again at the 33s and 55s you meet so many horrendous stations that I will sometimes just tighten up my pfr range and raise 3x (at the 15/30 for example). They are making a terrible mistake everytime they take a flop with J6o and such crap you often see in raised pots against you.