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Old 11-05-2007, 04:52 PM
Barrin6 Barrin6 is offline
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Default River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $128.75
BTN: $301.30
Hero (SB): $206
BB: $105.70
UTG: $115.50

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($6) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $5

Turn: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10

River: ($36) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks

Villain is 28/14/2.3
34 % bet river

Not high i know but I didn't think he would call a double barrel here unless he has 7/x which is rare

So after checking turn, river peeled off an ACE which made it seem like a bad card to lead for value. So I checked again planning to c/r.

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Old 11-05-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

Don't really like it a whole lot. I would lead this turn nearly always and if I checked I would c/r on the turn. I think you lost a little value by doing this. He's still probably going to call with his 68 or whatever on the turn to a bet and I think he checks behind a ton given the K/heart.

I would probably just bet the river for $20 or so. I think he checks behind with a ton of hands that would call a small bet. c/r-ing this river IS an option I suppose, I just don't know if its the best card to do it on (i'd be more inclined to c/r on a non Ace river).
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

good if you think something like A5/A7 with the Ah, and a lot of worse flushes are in his range. i prob bet like $28 for value, because you're c/r isn't gonna get called by a many hands that you beat..
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

I'd rather lead the turn because we hit the draw so it's likely that he didn't which means he'll probably be checking a lot of his hands. The good thing about this is he's in the BB so he can have two low hearts, 64o or a raggy 2 pair.

After you check the turn, the river can be check or bet, bet is really transparent, but check looks like a high heart when coupled with your turn line, and if he doesn't have two pair or better he's probably checking behind. I'd rather bet, bet, c/r than bet, c/c, c/r.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

his range: flushes, weak kings... and small pairs/air floating you on the turn.

On the river I believe a c/r has value against smaller flushes and air if he feels like firing again. It loses value against weak K's and other pairs that will call a bet to close the action.

Are we calling a shove? Axh and Qxh are clearly in his range
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

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good if you think something like A5/A7 with the Ah, and a lot of worse flushes are in his range. i prob bet like $28 for value, because you're c/r isn't gonna get called by a many hands that you beat..

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Lol of course it is.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

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Are we calling a shove? Axh and Qxh are clearly in his range

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Yeah.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

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good if you think something like A5/A7 with the Ah, and a lot of worse flushes are in his range. i prob bet like $28 for value, because you're c/r isn't gonna get called by a many hands that you beat..

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Lol of course it is.

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smaller flushes, and there aren't a lot of smaller flushes that don't raise the flop
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: River c/rrr . chyeaaaa

River c/r is fine I think. I mean I doubt he's going to call a river bet w/ 87 and he probably doesn't have a K and he could have just hit two pair and may not raise to a donk bet.
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