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Old 08-12-2006, 07:07 PM
LeadingMan LeadingMan is offline
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2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:23 PM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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That's a pretty [censored] hand.
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Old 08-12-2006, 08:40 PM
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2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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I know pretty much nothing about chinese poker, but your flush is worthless and takes one of your 8s, so you can't even put trips in the middle. Going on nothing but instinct I'm going to guess the best strategy is:

88822
KKXXX
TTX

But the correct play is probably completely different.
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Old 08-12-2006, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Chinese Poker Hand

Optimal play with this hand is boat, pair, pair. Hero expects to make .39 bets off of this hand in the long run (2-4 structure, bonuses count, no surrender) or .49 with no bonuses.


88822
KK564
JJT

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:42 PM
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Optimal play with this hand is boat, pair, pair. Hero expects to make .39 bets off of this hand in the long run (2-4 structure, bonuses count, no surrender) or .49 with no bonuses.


88822
KK564
JJT

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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Weird, I ran this thing and it (don smolen's) played the kicker in the middle.
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:54 AM
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Optimal play with this hand is boat, pair, pair. Hero expects to make .39 bets off of this hand in the long run (2-4 structure, bonuses count, no surrender) or .49 with no bonuses.


88822
KK564
JJT

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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Weird, I ran this thing and it (don smolen's) played the kicker in the middle.

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I ran it in the sim too.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:17 AM
Notorious G.O.B. Notorious G.O.B. is offline
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That's a pretty [censored] hand.

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Huh? It's better than average, definitely nothing to surrender. Pretty obvious what the right play is, though.
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Old 08-16-2006, 02:19 AM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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That's a pretty [censored] hand.

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Huh? It's better than average, definitely nothing to surrender. Pretty obvious what the right play is, though.

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I've been spending too much time in the O/8 and Stud forums.
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Old 08-16-2006, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Chinese Poker Hand

TT,

888XX
KKJJX
22X

is that horrible or does my line for the middle make your top hand too vulnerable?
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Old 08-16-2006, 04:36 PM
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TT,

888XX
KKJJX
22X

is that horrible or does my line for the middle make your top hand too vulnerable?

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If you played it like that the top and middle have no chance, and the bottom isn't good either. If for some reason you put two pair in the middle it should either be KK22 or JJ22 so that the bottom is strong. Putting a full house in the top is definitely the right play though.
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