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#11
11-09-2007, 01:28 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
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KJ, AK, and AA are the only things that beat us. I'm not putting him on any of these hands. I'm calling a shove no matter what. [/ QUOTE ] how about a slowplayed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ? 
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#13
11-09-2007, 01:28 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
anyone who says fold to a shove is weak tight
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#15
11-09-2007, 01:30 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
actually, Q10s is probably the most likely thing he has if anything. I just can't see him having anything else here. He played AA, AK, or KJ so poorly here if that's what he has.
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#16
11-09-2007, 01:31 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
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do some hand reading [/ QUOTE ] So our 0.5 AF villain will 4bet shove 2 stacks on the river with a non-nut flush on a paired board just because it came in through the back? I don't quite follow.
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#17
11-09-2007, 01:32 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
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[ QUOTE ] KJ, AK, and AA are the only things that beat us. I'm not putting him on any of these hands. I'm calling a shove no matter what. [/ QUOTE ] how about a slowplayed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ? [/ QUOTE ] That would really suck for Hero, in which case I am going here every time.
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#18
11-09-2007, 01:34 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
let me make this clearer
against a AA,JJ,99,AJs+,KJs,QTs,AJo+ range you are 78% favourite, call shove and don't look back the only reason you raise and not shove yourself is because he might fold otherwise
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#19
11-09-2007, 01:34 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
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[ QUOTE ] do some hand reading [/ QUOTE ] So our 0.5 AF villain will 4bet shove 2 stacks on the river with a non-nut flush on a paired board just because it came in through the back? I don't quite follow. [/ QUOTE ] flop check makes it unlikely (not impossible though) that he has us beat. Our odds would be far too good to fold.
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#20
11-09-2007, 01:36 AM
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Re: 50NL Full House, River Action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] his preflop AF was 0.12 and his flop AF was 0.67 if that means anything to you guys [/ QUOTE ] OP says "Villain is 40/5/0.5" [/ QUOTE ] i am the OP... the 0.5 is his total AF [/ QUOTE ] I got confused. Never seen anyone thrown in PF AF. That's not important. VPIP and PFR are the stats we care about; PF AF is just a function of that, but tells us way less. If his PFR is 5, he is not raising QTs from the button. If his VPIP is 40, QTs is def in his range, and so are lots of other flushes.
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