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Old 05-23-2007, 11:50 PM
Autocratic Autocratic is offline
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the argument that it's not costing them anything is absurd, and it's pretty obvious why.


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I don't think so. If you wouldn't have otherwise bought those seats, you are not stealing.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:51 PM
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I have a better one;

Me and my 2 buds frequently go to movie theater, pay for the first show, and then watch like 3 movies total.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:51 PM
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I've read none of this thread and the answer is yes. It always is with threads like these.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:52 PM
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daryn,

I agree that in a somewhat abstract ethical sense it is stealing, but I think the question of whether or not it is wrong is a different question in this case. It's like asking if you and a friend are stranded in the mountains and he dies and you take his water bottle/compass, is that stealing? Well technically in the eyes of the law it may be... but does it hurt anyone? No. I don't think the individual is responsible for the marketing woes of a MLB team (being unable to sell out stadiums)... and if it is a pervasive enough problem and "everyone is doing it" then the people who really want the good seats will start buying them, etc. I agree that it is in some technical sense stealing, but I can't buy the moral high horse arguments either... not directed at you specifically as I think we tend to agree here, but just in general.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:54 PM
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I have a better one;

Me and my 2 buds frequently go to movie theater, pay for the first show, and then watch like 3 movies total.

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You live in the us? how do you do that? in Sweden that's impossible. And how is something equally or more obvious a better one?
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:55 PM
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it's obviously stealing. there's really no gray area. whether you do it or not or whether you think it's a big deal or nothing is another thing.

the argument that it's not costing them anything is absurd, and it's pretty obvious why.

would i do it? sure.

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Dayrin:

What if, in a hypothetical situation, only 2 tickets were sold. An amazing fluke, or whatever. It is the 8th inning, you move down 15 rows, b/c you say "I don't think anyone is coming".

Now, lets say you do not know that only 2 tickets were sold. However, you still see the stadium is empty. Do you still move down for the last few innings?

How is this stealing?
What is being stolen?
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:58 PM
I_AM_EVIL I_AM_EVIL is offline
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And yes, it is stealing. getting something that costs more than what you paid for is stealing. Doesn't matter if there's no victims.

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So anytime a store sells something below MSRP then you're stealing from the store?
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:00 AM
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And yes, it is stealing. getting something that costs more than what you paid for is stealing. Doesn't matter if there's no victims.

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So anytime a store sells something below MSRP then you're stealing from the store?

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What?
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:00 AM
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the argument that it's not costing them anything is absurd, and it's pretty obvious why.


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I don't think so. If you wouldn't have otherwise bought those seats, you are not stealing.

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not true. that's like saying if i wouldn't have otherwise bought tickets to go see happy feet, i could sneak into the theater and have it not be stealing, assuming plenty of open seats.

it's bad logic.
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:02 AM
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the argument that it's not costing them anything is absurd, and it's pretty obvious why.


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I don't think so. If you wouldn't have otherwise bought those seats, you are not stealing.

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not true. that's like saying if i wouldn't have otherwise bought tickets to go see happy feet, i could sneak into the theater and have it not be stealing, assuming plenty of open seats.

it's bad logic.

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I'm not saying it's not stealing - you are taking a service without paying. What I am saying is it's not costing them money.
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