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Old 11-12-2007, 02:55 AM
EricLindros EricLindros is offline
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Default Re: NSFW Not for the faint of heart

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edit: also, if you can honestly say that if given the choice you could kill your own mother/father/sibling instead of a cat then you need help

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I'm talking about the assertion of a random animal vs. random human. It should be obvious that animals to which one has some sort of sentimental attachment are going to be exceptions.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: NSFW Not for the faint of heart

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edit: also, if you can honestly say that if given the choice you could kill your own mother/father/sibling instead of a cat then you need help

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I'm talking about the assertion of a random animal vs. random human. It should be obvious that animals to which one has some sort of sentimental attachment are going to be exceptions.

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can you really say that you have no human empathy? that is pretty much what you are saying, that if a gold fish and a human were randomly selected and you had to kill one you could kill either without a second though
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: NSFW Not for the faint of heart

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edit: also, if you can honestly say that if given the choice you could kill your own mother/father/sibling instead of a cat then you need help

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I'm talking about the assertion of a random animal vs. random human. It should be obvious that animals to which one has some sort of sentimental attachment are going to be exceptions.

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can you really say that you have no human empathy? that is pretty much what you are saying, that if a gold fish and a human were randomly selected and you had to kill one you could kill either without a second though

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There is no creature besides man that takes pleasure in the pain of another living creature. It's about a lack of sympathy, not empathy.
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:23 AM
Paulie Walnuts Paulie Walnuts is offline
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Default Re: NSFW Not for the faint of heart

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edit: also, if you can honestly say that if given the choice you could kill your own mother/father/sibling instead of a cat then you need help

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I'm talking about the assertion of a random animal vs. random human. It should be obvious that animals to which one has some sort of sentimental attachment are going to be exceptions.

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can you really say that you have no human empathy? that is pretty much what you are saying, that if a gold fish and a human were randomly selected and you had to kill one you could kill either without a second though

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There is no creature besides man that takes pleasure in the pain of another living creature. It's about a lack of sympathy, not empathy.

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Good point CC. And to those who say ban OP because I posted this vid need to accept what is reality. I didn't seek this video I stumbled across it as have you. If it were up to me I wish I never saw it. But it's like an evil secret, you just have to share it with others so you don't carry the burden by yourself.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:10 AM
Raxor101 Raxor101 is offline
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Default Re: NSFW Not for the faint of heart

A random animal is more innocent than a random human because of the gap in intelligence.

It is the same reason that it would be much harder to kill a small child than an adult. The same reason it would be harder to kill a mentally handicapped person than an adult. The child, the mentally disabled and the animal are not capable of understanding what is happening and why. All there is for them is the suffering. At least an intelligent adult, although obviously will suffer. has the mental awareness to understand that the world is a horrible place, people are capable of great evil and that these things happen.

It won't make it any better for them, but it would make me more comfortable killing the adult given they can rationalize what is going on.
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