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Old 09-30-2007, 01:27 AM
hoppscot22 hoppscot22 is offline
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

im never folding here you need to win like 1 out of every 3 times and you do
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

Nasty spot but I might fold. I don't think he's value shoving much worse, probably just AT, and he probably isn't triple barreling you all that much either.

I generally don't like to go passive pf OOP to 17% PFR guys, I save that for less than 15% PFR guys...
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

3 bet/AIPF
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

Can all of you guys who say fold tell me a single hand you would play this way and then call a river bet?
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

Ugh. His betsizing on the turn and river makes me think this is a value bet always, and you're probably looking at JJ+.

You only need 27% though, and as mentioned, he could shove AT too, and against JJ+, ATs, and ATo, you are 40%.

Stating the obvious, but it really depends on how much you think ATo is a part of his range. Against a range of JJ+, ATs, and one quarter of the ATo combinations, you have 26% equity.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

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Can all of you guys who say fold tell me a single hand you would play this way and then call a river bet?

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Versus an aggro guy, I can't tell you a single hand I'd play this way and then fold the river bet, either.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

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Can all of you guys who say fold tell me a single hand you would play this way and then call a river bet?

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Versus an aggro guy, I can't tell you a single hand I'd play this way and then fold the river bet, either.

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"Aggro guy" wouldn't be enough for me to call, say, 77 here on a regular basis. But JJ is real tough to lay down here.
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

I would call but it's really marginal. You're hand looks like 22-JJ, so it's feasible he's shoving 88 here for value. Sick spot though.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, JJ underepped facing 3 barrel.

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I would call but it's really marginal. You're hand looks like 22-JJ, so it's feasible he's shoving 88 here for value. Sick spot though.

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88 is not a shove for value.

I don't like pf as gives the limpers incentive to tag along getting a decent price, generating a multiway pot.
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