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Old 07-08-2007, 04:23 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: [censored] TITO ORTIZ JUST DON\'T GRAB THE CAGE!

Also, his insane cardio. Plus the fact that he walks at like 175 practically, and BJ will be giving up like 20 pounds of pure muscle bc he is a little flabby. Yeah, i think Sean has to be the favorite in this fight.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: [censored] TITO ORTIZ JUST DON\'T GRAB THE CAGE!

Since we're talking about stats here, I also counted 271 punches and elbows from a dominant position by Sherk. If Franca didn't feel like a freight train ran over him when he woke up this morning, I'll be very surprised.

Frankly, at this point I'd give Penn better odds against Hughes than against Sherk. Sherk is a beast and a freak of nature.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:05 PM
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A 5 round fight really favors Sherk vs anyone.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:10 PM
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BJ Penn has a huge edge against Sherk.
Penn is a winner at WW, Sherk dropped because he couldn't handle the riddum.

O ya Penn is a BJJ phenom, wayyy outta Hermes league on the ground and it really isnt even close.

Penn has also fought all the way up to HW, so hes used to giving up size.
Penn has a much better ground game than anyone Sherk has faced.
The only thing Penn gives up against Sherk is cardio.
Talent wise it isnt even close.
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:40 PM
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Penn is a BJJ phenom, but Sherk has crazy MMA experience (40+ pro fights), an extreme strength edge, better training regimin, freakish cardio, and unbelievable wrestling - and the only guys who have ever beaten Sherk were the guys who beat BJ Penn. Seriously, Sherk will maul BJ and it's not even close. Penn had better get his game together because he's in for a war if he wants any piece of the LW title ever again.

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BJ Penn has a huge edge against Sherk.
Penn is a winner at WW, Sherk dropped because he couldn't handle the riddum.

O ya Penn is a BJJ phenom, wayyy outta Hermes league on the ground and it really isnt even close.

Penn has also fought all the way up to HW, so hes used to giving up size.
Penn has a much better ground game than anyone Sherk has faced.
The only thing Penn gives up against Sherk is cardio.
Talent wise it isnt even close.

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Old 07-08-2007, 06:43 PM
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BJ Penn has a huge edge against Sherk.
Penn is a winner at WW, Sherk dropped because he couldn't handle the riddum.

O ya Penn is a BJJ phenom, wayyy outta Hermes league on the ground and it really isnt even close.

Penn has also fought all the way up to HW, so hes used to giving up size.
Penn has a much better ground game than anyone Sherk has faced.
The only thing Penn gives up against Sherk is cardio.
Talent wise it isnt even close.

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This has to be leveling
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: [censored] TITO ORTIZ JUST DON\'T GRAB THE CAGE!

Chuck is still better than any of these clowns.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:14 PM
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Penn is a BJJ phenom, but Sherk has crazy MMA experience (40+ pro fights), an extreme strength edge, better training regimin, freakish cardio, and unbelievable wrestling - and the only guys who have ever beaten Sherk were the guys who beat BJ Penn. Seriously, Sherk will maul BJ and it's not even close. Penn had better get his game together because he's in for a war if he wants any piece of the LW title ever again.

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BJ Penn has a huge edge against Sherk.
Penn is a winner at WW, Sherk dropped because he couldn't handle the riddum.

O ya Penn is a BJJ phenom, wayyy outta Hermes league on the ground and it really isnt even close.

Penn has also fought all the way up to HW, so hes used to giving up size.
Penn has a much better ground game than anyone Sherk has faced.
The only thing Penn gives up against Sherk is cardio.
Talent wise it isnt even close.

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Sherk is a poor mans Hughes. Hes smaller and weaker than Hughes, you guys cant disagree with that.

I know Penn lost the second fight against Hughes, but at the very least you have to admit that Penn was working Hughes the first two rounds before he separated the rib. If he can do that against Hughes what makes you think that he wont do the same against someone whose just a smaller version of Hughes?
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:14 PM
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BJ Penn has a huge edge against Sherk.
Penn is a winner at WW, Sherk dropped because he couldn't handle the riddum.

O ya Penn is a BJJ phenom, wayyy outta Hermes league on the ground and it really isnt even close.

Penn has also fought all the way up to HW, so hes used to giving up size.
Penn has a much better ground game than anyone Sherk has faced.
The only thing Penn gives up against Sherk is cardio.
Talent wise it isnt even close.

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This has to be leveling

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it isnt.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:32 PM
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Penn is a BJJ phenom, but Sherk has crazy MMA experience (40+ pro fights), an extreme strength edge, better training regimin, freakish cardio, and unbelievable wrestling - and the only guys who have ever beaten Sherk were the guys who beat BJ Penn. Seriously, Sherk will maul BJ and it's not even close. Penn had better get his game together because he's in for a war if he wants any piece of the LW title ever again.

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BJ Penn has a huge edge against Sherk.
Penn is a winner at WW, Sherk dropped because he couldn't handle the riddum.

O ya Penn is a BJJ phenom, wayyy outta Hermes league on the ground and it really isnt even close.

Penn has also fought all the way up to HW, so hes used to giving up size.
Penn has a much better ground game than anyone Sherk has faced.
The only thing Penn gives up against Sherk is cardio.
Talent wise it isnt even close.

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Sherk is a poor mans Hughes. Hes smaller and weaker than Hughes, you guys cant disagree with that.

I know Penn lost the second fight against Hughes, but at the very least you have to admit that Penn was working Hughes the first two rounds before he separated the rib. If he can do that against Hughes what makes you think that he wont do the same against someone whose just a smaller version of Hughes?

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Sherk is a smaller, faster, denser version of Hughes with a gas tank that just won't quit and a better game plan than Hughes brought with him to the GSP fight. Almost assuredly better wrestling too. And Sherk is huge at 155, so he's still going to outsize Penn - it's not like Penn is coming in at 170 vs. Sherk's 155.
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