ask me about fantasy baseball v.2007

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edit: is this a keeper league b/c that would change everything?

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no it isn't

edit: but i definitely see where you're coming from

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lol thank you i finally get the upper hand on my friend who is a "expert" fantasy player

over aim

Friend: just a second
Friend: what type of league is this
Me: 10 team
Friend: keeper?
Me: 5 vs 5
Friend: it has to be a keeper league
Me: no
Me: i dont think so
Friend: it has to be
Friend: chris ianetta in the 9th round?
Me: he didnt say it is in his post
Friend: matt kemp
Friend: howie kendrick
Me: his league is on scoresheet.com?
Friend: i can almost guarantee it
Me: is that always a keeper? that website?
Friend: ive never heard of it
Friend: but usually those offshoot sites are

Part 2

Me: i made a post asking him if its a keeper league
Friend: good
Friend: im positve it is
Friend: eric patterson is in double a
Me: well someone must have had a sweet team
Me: if they didnt keep vlad
Friend: you dont keep guys like vlad
Friend: you keep guys like sizemore, who ironically wasn't kept
Me: i think it depends on the amount of keepers you are allowed to have
Friend: im on low battery

Moral of the story, he really doesnlt like your team, i wonder what crackpots opinion will be?

why did you pick eric patterson???
also personally, i dont like taking pitchers in the first 5 rounds, but ben sheets???

can you copy/paste the draft order of each team? the reason is if roy hallday is still on the board, why would you take ben sheets before him, you should have taken chris, roy, carlos, webb before ben sheets for sure (at least in my opinion, im very curious what others and crackpot has to say)

[NT!]

quick noob question for a roto 6x6, non-keeper league, draft is tomorrow:

we have added OPS and Holds to the standard mix (so its AVG, SB, R, RBI, HR, OPS vs ERA, W, SV, WHIP, K and H), how much would these alter draft rankings for hitters and pitchers, respectively? are there any particular, or popular players who become more or less valuable here?

it seems like setup men obviously gain some value, as do high-OBP guys on offense, but most of the really high OPS guys are already valuable for their power, runs and average. so my intuition is that it changes very little on offense (other than making empty-average and speed guys a bit more of a liability in other departments).

EDIT: 12 team fun-only league if that makes a difference

[A S U]

How'd I do?

10 Team H2H. 5x5 H, HR, SB, RBI, AVG, W, K, ERA, SV, WHIP

1. (6) Álex Rodríguez
2. (15) Lance Berkman
3. (26) Matt Holliday
4. (35) Vernon Wells
5. (46) Rafael Furcal
6. (55) Johnny Damon
7. (66) Brandon Webb
8. (75) Paul Konerko
9. (86) Rickie Weeks
10. (95) Jim Thome
11. (106) Chris Young
12. (115) Rich Harden
13. (126) Prince Fielder
14. (135) Erik Bedard
15. (146) Chad Cordero
16. (155) Jason Isringhausen
17. (166) A.J. Burnett
18. (175) Scot Shields
19. (186) Dave Bush
20. (195) Salomón Torres
21. (206) Johnny Estrada

[durron597]

oswalt - gone
carpenter - gone
webb - gone

zambrano - i really disagree

i also think that sheets > oswalt

edit: whoops, i was wrong about oswalt already being gone

i still think sheets is the better pitcher

[durron597]

I am Player 7.

I think I should have taken Utley when I took Guerrero (and that changes the whole face of my draft so lets not talk about it).

1 Pujols Albert Player 1
2 Cabrera Miguel Player 2
3 Howard Ryan Player 3
4 Mauer Joe Player 4
5 Santana Johan Player 5
6 Berkman Lance Player 6
7 Guerrero Vladimir Player 7
8 Utley Chase Player 8
9 Reyes Jose Player 9
10 Ortiz David Player 10
11 Soriano Alfonso Player 10
12 Crawford Carl Player 9
13 Tejada Miguel Player 8
14 Teixiera Mark Player 7
15 Beltran Carlos Player 6
16 Jeter Derek Player 5
17 Hafner Travis Player 4
18 Rodriguez Alex Player 3
19 Bonderman Jeremy Player 2
20 Carpenter Chris Player 1
21 Wright David Player 1
22 Guillen Carlos Player 2
23 Ramirez Manny Player 3
24 Holliday Matt Player 4
25 Atkins Garrett Player 5
26 McCann Brian Player 6
27 Sizemore Grady Player 7
28 Peavy Jake Player 8
29 Rollins Jimmy Player 9
30 Ramirez Hanley Player 10
31 Webb Brandon Player 10
32 Lee Carlos Player 9
33 Bay Jason Player 8
34 Sheets Ben Player 7
35 Rodriguez Francisco Player 6
36 Oswalt Roy Player 5
37 Jones Andruw Player 4
38 Schilling Curt Player 3
39 Ramirez Aramis Player 2
40 Suzuki Ichiro Player 1
41 Matsuzaka Daisuke Player 1
42 Sabiathia C.C. Player 2
43 Papelbon Jonathan Player 3
44 Nathan Joe Player 4
45 Wagner Billy Player 5
46 Hall Bill Player 6
47 Halladay Roy Player 7
48 Gordon Alex Player 8
49 Ryan B.J. Player 9
50 Abreu Bobby Player 10
51 Wells Vernon Player 10
52 Derrek Lee Player 9
53 Dunn Adam Player 8
54 Young Michael Player 7
55 Hudson Orlando Player 6
56 Roberts Brian Player 5
57 Lackey John Player 4
58 Martinez Victor Player 3
59 Carlos Zambrano Player 2
60 Delgado Carlos Player 1
61 Rivera Mariano Player 1
62 Fielder Prince Player 2
63 Thome Jim Player 3
64 Morneau Justin Player 4
65 Konerko Paul Player 5
66 Helton Todd Player 6
67 Kendrick Howie Player 7
68 Gagne Eric Player 8
69 Cano Robinson Player 9
70 Hernandez Felix Player 10
71 Kazmir Scott Player 10
72 Smoltz John Player 9
73 Zimmerman Ryan Player 8
74 Haren Dan Player 7
75 Glaus Troy Player 6
76 Saito Takashi Player 5
77 Street Huston Player 4
78 Dye Jermaine Player 3
79 Arroyo Bronson Player 2
80 Lowe Derek Player 1
81 Kenji Johjima Player 1
82 Milledge Lastings Player 2
83 Lugo Julio Player 3
84 Willis Dontrelle Player 4
85 Damon Johnny Player 5
86 Young Chris Player 6
87 Iannetta Chris Player 7
88 Escobar Kelvim Player 8
89 Harden Rich Player 9
90 Rolen Scott Player 10
91 Harang Aaron Player 10
92 Hamels Cole Player 9
93 Granderson Curtis Player 8
94 Beltre Adrian Player 7
95 Lidge Brad Player 6
96 Verlander Justin Player 5
97 Reyes Anthony Player 4
98 Bonds Barry Player 3
99 Lincecum Tim Player 2
100 Furcal Rafael Player 1
101 Drew J.D. Player 1
102 Baldelli Rocco Player 2
103 Uggla Dan Player 3
104 Drew Stephen Player 4
105 Ordonez Magglio Player 5
106 Jones Chipper Player 6
107 Jenks Bobby Player 7
108 Posada Jorge Player 8
109 Myers Brett Player 9
110 Zumaya Joel Player 10
111 Overbay Lyle Player 10
112 Cain Matt Player 9
113 Giambi Jason Player 8
114 Mussina Mike Player 7
115 Maddux Greg Player 6
116 Rodriguez Ivan Player 5
117 Durham Ray Player 4
118 Zito Barry Player 3
119 Iguchi Tadahito Player 2
120 Schmidt Jason Player 1
121 Kent Jeff Player 1
122 Neshek Pat Player 2
123 Johnson Randy Player 3
124 Cordero Chad Player 4
125 Young Chris Player 5
126 Putz J.J. Player 6
127 Ray Chris Player 7
128 Burnett A.J. Player 8
129 Sheffield Gary Player 9
130 Robertson Nate Player 10
131 German Esteban Player 10
132 Cordero Francisco Player 9
133 Bush Dave Player 8
134 Kemp Matt Player 7
135 Wainwright Adam Player 6
136 Capuano Chris Player 5
137 Burrell Pat Player 4
138 Penny Brad Player 3
139 Hart Corey Player 2
140 Matsui Hideki Player 1
141 Hudson Tim Player 1
142 Hernandez Ramon Player 2
143 Pierre Juan Player 3
144 Bedard Erik Player 4
145 Hoffman Trevor Player 5
146 Westbrook Jake Player 6
147 Vazquez Javier Player 7
148 Gordon Tom Player 8
149 Hill Rich Player 9
150 Hensley Clay Player 10
151 Wiggington Ty Player 10
152 Young Delmon Player 9
153 Weaver Jered Player 8
154 Chavez Eric Player 7
155 Glavine Tom Player 6
156 Ibanez Raul Player 5
157 Fuentes Brian Player 4
158 Timlin Mike Player 3
159 Broxton Jonanthan Player 2
160 Farnsworth Kyle Player 1
161 Wickman Bob Player 1
162 Fausto Carmona Player 2
163 Thomas Frank Player 3
164 Jennings Jason Player 4
165 Hunter Tori Player 5
166 Peralta Jhonny Player 6
167 Feldman Scott Player 7
168 Crisp Coco Player 8
169 Rios Alex Player 9
170 Martin Russell Player 10
171 Otsuka Akinori Player 10
172 Swisher Nick Player 9
173 Kinsler Ian Player 8
174 Shields Scot Player 7
175 Paulino Ronny Player 6
176 Sanchez Freddy Player 5
177 Meredith Cla Player 4
178 Pena Willy Mo Player 3
179 Rincon Juan Player 2
180 Francoeur Jeff Player 1
181 Griffey Jr Ken Player 1
182 Bard Josh Player 2
183 Biggio Craig Player 3
184 Beckett Josh Player 4
185 Kouzmanoff Kevin Player 5
186 Youkilis Kevin Player 6
187 Valverde Jose Player 7
188 Barrett Michael Player 8
189 Piazza Mike Player 9
190 Rauch John Player 10
191 Gonzales Adrian Player 10
192 Teahen Mark Player 9
193 Tulawitski Troy Player 8
194 Patterson Eric Player 7
195 Giles Brian Player 6
196 Pettitte Andy Player 5
197 Tracy Chad Player 4
198 Sanchez Rafael Player 3
199 Betancourt Rafael Player 2
200 Santana Ervin Player 1
201 Derosa Mark Player 1
202 Slowey Kevin Player 2
203 Lowell Mike Player 3
204 Encarnacion Edwin Player 4
205 Jones Todd Player 5
206 Pedroia Dustin Player 6
207 Buehrle Mark Player 7
208 Cabrera Daniel Player 8
209 Weeks Ricky Player 9
210 Rogers Kenny Player 10

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I am Player 7.

I think I should have taken Utley when I took Guerrero (and that changes the whole face of my draft so lets not talk about it).

Players in Bold is where i think someone stepped way out of line.
1 Pujols Albert Player 1
2 Cabrera Miguel Player 2
3 Howard Ryan Player 3
4 Mauer Joe Player 4
5 Santana Johan Player 5
6 Berkman Lance Player 6
7 Guerrero Vladimir Player 7
8 Utley Chase Player 8
9 Reyes Jose Player 9
10 Ortiz David Player 10
11 Soriano Alfonso Player 10
12 Crawford Carl Player 9
13 Tejada Miguel Player 8
14 Teixiera Mark Player 7
15 Beltran Carlos Player 6
16 Jeter Derek Player 5
17 Hafner Travis Player 4
18 Rodriguez Alex Player 3
19 Bonderman Jeremy Player 2
20 Carpenter Chris Player 1
21 Wright David Player 1
22 Guillen Carlos Player 2
23 Ramirez Manny Player 3
24 Holliday Matt Player 4
25 Atkins Garrett Player 5
26 McCann Brian Player 6
27 Sizemore Grady Player 7
28 Peavy Jake Player 8
29 Rollins Jimmy Player 9
30 Ramirez Hanley Player 10
31 Webb Brandon Player 10
32 Lee Carlos Player 9
33 Bay Jason Player 8
34 Sheets Ben Player 7
35 Rodriguez Francisco Player 6
36 Oswalt Roy Player 5
37 Jones Andruw Player 4
38 Schilling Curt Player 3
39 Ramirez Aramis Player 2
40 Suzuki Ichiro Player 1
41 Matsuzaka Daisuke Player 1
42 Sabiathia C.C. Player 2
43 Papelbon Jonathan Player 3
44 Nathan Joe Player 4
45 Wagner Billy Player 5
46 Hall Bill Player 6
47 Halladay Roy Player 7
48 Gordon Alex Player 8
49 Ryan B.J. Player 9
50 Abreu Bobby Player 10
51 Wells Vernon Player 10
52 Derrek Lee Player 9
53 Dunn Adam Player 8
54 Young Michael Player 7
55 Hudson Orlando Player 6
56 Roberts Brian Player 5
57 Lackey John Player 4
58 Martinez Victor Player 3
59 Carlos Zambrano Player 2
60 Delgado Carlos Player 1
61 Rivera Mariano Player 1
62 Fielder Prince Player 2
63 Thome Jim Player 3
64 Morneau Justin Player 4
65 Konerko Paul Player 5
66 Helton Todd Player 6
67 Kendrick Howie Player 7
68 Gagne Eric Player 8
69 Cano Robinson Player 9
70 Hernandez Felix Player 10
71 Kazmir Scott Player 10
72 Smoltz John Player 9
73 Zimmerman Ryan Player 8
74 Haren Dan Player 7
75 Glaus Troy Player 6
76 Saito Takashi Player 5
77 Street Huston Player 4
78 Dye Jermaine Player 3
79 Arroyo Bronson Player 2
80 Lowe Derek Player 1
81 Kenji Johjima Player 1
82 Milledge Lastings Player 2
83 Lugo Julio Player 3
84 Willis Dontrelle Player 4
85 Damon Johnny Player 5
86 Young Chris Player 6
87 Iannetta Chris Player 7
88 Escobar Kelvim Player 8
89 Harden Rich Player 9
90 Rolen Scott Player 10
91 Harang Aaron Player 10
92 Hamels Cole Player 9
93 Granderson Curtis Player 8
94 Beltre Adrian Player 7
95 Lidge Brad Player 6
96 Verlander Justin Player 5
97 Reyes Anthony Player 4
98 Bonds Barry Player 3
99 Lincecum Tim Player 2
100 Furcal Rafael Player 1
101 Drew J.D. Player 1
102 Baldelli Rocco Player 2
103 Uggla Dan Player 3
104 Drew Stephen Player 4
105 Ordonez Magglio Player 5
106 Jones Chipper Player 6
107 Jenks Bobby Player 7
108 Posada Jorge Player 8
109 Myers Brett Player 9
110 Zumaya Joel Player 10
111 Overbay Lyle Player 10
112 Cain Matt Player 9
113 Giambi Jason Player 8
114 Mussina Mike Player 7
115 Maddux Greg Player 6
116 Rodriguez Ivan Player 5
117 Durham Ray Player 4
118 Zito Barry Player 3
119 Iguchi Tadahito Player 2
120 Schmidt Jason Player 1
121 Kent Jeff Player 1
122 Neshek Pat Player 2
123 Johnson Randy Player 3
124 Cordero Chad Player 4
125 Young Chris Player 5
126 Putz J.J. Player 6
127 Ray Chris Player 7
128 Burnett A.J. Player 8
129 Sheffield Gary Player 9
130 Robertson Nate Player 10
131 German Esteban Player 10
132 Cordero Francisco Player 9
133 Bush Dave Player 8
134 Kemp Matt Player 7
135 Wainwright Adam Player 6
136 Capuano Chris Player 5
137 Burrell Pat Player 4
138 Penny Brad Player 3
139 Hart Corey Player 2
140 Matsui Hideki Player 1
141 Hudson Tim Player 1
142 Hernandez Ramon Player 2
143 Pierre Juan Player 3
144 Bedard Erik Player 4
145 Hoffman Trevor Player 5
146 Westbrook Jake Player 6
147 Vazquez Javier Player 7
148 Gordon Tom Player 8
149 Hill Rich Player 9
150 Hensley Clay Player 10
151 Wiggington Ty Player 10
152 Young Delmon Player 9
153 Weaver Jered Player 8
154 Chavez Eric Player 7
155 Glavine Tom Player 6
156 Ibanez Raul Player 5
157 Fuentes Brian Player 4
158 Timlin Mike Player 3
159 Broxton Jonanthan Player 2
160 Farnsworth Kyle Player 1
161 Wickman Bob Player 1
162 Fausto Carmona Player 2
163 Thomas Frank Player 3
164 Jennings Jason Player 4
165 Hunter Tori Player 5
166 Peralta Jhonny Player 6
167 Feldman Scott Player 7
168 Crisp Coco Player 8
169 Rios Alex Player 9
170 Martin Russell Player 10
171 Otsuka Akinori Player 10
172 Swisher Nick Player 9
173 Kinsler Ian Player 8
174 Shields Scot Player 7
175 Paulino Ronny Player 6
176 Sanchez Freddy Player 5
177 Meredith Cla Player 4
178 Pena Willy Mo Player 3
179 Rincon Juan Player 2
180 Francoeur Jeff Player 1
181 Griffey Jr Ken Player 1
182 Bard Josh Player 2
183 Biggio Craig Player 3
184 Beckett Josh Player 4
185 Kouzmanoff Kevin Player 5
186 Youkilis Kevin Player 6
187 Valverde Jose Player 7
188 Barrett Michael Player 8
189 Piazza Mike Player 9
190 Rauch John Player 10
191 Gonzales Adrian Player 10
192 Teahen Mark Player 9
193 Tulawitski Troy Player 8
194 Patterson Eric Player 7
195 Giles Brian Player 6
196 Pettitte Andy Player 5
197 Tracy Chad Player 4
198 Sanchez Rafael Player 3
199 Betancourt Rafael Player 2
200 Santana Ervin Player 1
201 Derosa Mark Player 1
202 Slowey Kevin Player 2
203 Lowell Mike Player 3
204 Encarnacion Edwin Player 4
205 Jones Todd Player 5
206 Pedroia Dustin Player 6
207 Buehrle Mark Player 7
208 Cabrera Daniel Player 8
209 Weeks Ricky Player 9
210 Rogers Kenny Player 10

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I just went through the first 40, to show where i dont get people, everyone in bold besides Jose (who is a major steal at 9th) was picked too early.

also about Howie look at his numbers,

25 (runs) 4(hr) 30 (rbi) 6 (sb) .285 (avg)

okay he did this in 267 ab, but why not take robinson cano, ryan zimmerman etc. in fact you could have taken so many players i cant list then all.

also Dice-K 41's pick WTF??????? I think i screwed up taking him at (93) Daisuke Matsuzaka SP (on one of my teams)


Go to yahoo<<<draft central<<<Draft Analysis and look at the avg taken
how the hell did a-rod drop to 18 and jose to 9 and cabrera was at 2?

edit: also noticed takashi saito being taken at like 76 avg pick 150.

[bugstud]

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quick noob question for a roto 6x6, non-keeper league, draft is tomorrow:

we have added OPS and Holds to the standard mix (so its AVG, SB, R, RBI, HR, OPS vs ERA, W, SV, WHIP, K and H), how much would these alter draft rankings for hitters and pitchers, respectively? are there any particular, or popular players who become more or less valuable here?

it seems like setup men obviously gain some value, as do high-OBP guys on offense, but most of the really high OPS guys are already valuable for their power, runs and average. so my intuition is that it changes very little on offense (other than making empty-average and speed guys a bit more of a liability in other departments).

EDIT: 12 team fun-only league if that makes a difference

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your corey hart/chris young 20/20 sleeper types are even more valuable because they won't kill your ops. guys like reyes lose value because they're a hitting category drain.

as far as pitchers, closers just got a lot less valuable.

[westside8]

Keepers league draft, 14 keepers. First 14 draft picks are my keepers...

10 teams...C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, IF, OF, OF, OF, OF, OF, UTIL, UTIL, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, 4x BN

Standard 5x5 cats

1. (3) Robinson Canó 2B
2. (18) Carlos Guillén SS
3. (23) Derrek Lee 1B
4. (38) Carl Crawford OF
5. (43) David Wright 3B
6. (58) Justin Morneau 1B
7. (63) Rickie Weeks 2B
8. (78) Jeremy Bonderman SP
9. (83) Barry Zito SP
10. (98) Scott Kazmir SP
11. (103) Joel Zumaya RP
12. (118) Bobby Jenks RP
13. (123) Brad Hawpe OF
14. (138) Cliff Lee SP
15. (143) Chris B. Young OF
16. (158) Josh Beckett SP
17. (163) Jeff Francoeur OF
18. (178) Francisco Cordero RP
19. (183) Scot Shields RP
20. (198) Carlos Quentin OF
21. (203) Kevin Kouzmanoff Util
22. (218) Bobby Crosby SS
23. (223) Adam LaRoche 1B
24. (238) Kei Igawa SP
25. (243) Eric Chávez 3B
26. (258) Jason Varitek C
27. (263) John Maine SP

I definitely reached to take Chris Young with my first round pick, I am not sure about the rest...
Note: I am not going to win this year, but I'm hoping to build a contender by 2009.

[durron597]

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I just went through the first 40, to show where i dont get people, everyone in bold besides Jose (who is a major steal at 9th) was picked too early.

also about Howie look at his numbers,

25 (runs) 4(hr) 30 (rbi) 6 (sb) .285 (avg)

okay he did this in 267 ab, but why not take robinson cano, ryan zimmerman etc. in fact you could have taken so many players i cant list then all.

also Dice-K 41's pick WTF??????? I think i screwed up taking him at (93) Daisuke Matsuzaka SP (on one of my teams)


Go to yahoo<<<draft central<<<Draft Analysis and look at the avg taken
how the hell did a-rod drop to 18 and jose to 9 and cabrera was at 2?

edit: also noticed takashi saito being taken at like 76 avg pick 150.

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this isn't a roto league. steals count for very little. thus reyes at 9th is laughable and terrible.

howie is going to get a full season this year. but i almost took both players you mention there.

we are not professional fantasy baseball players lol. i think player 9's team is laughably bad.

[Shadowrun]

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I just went through the first 40, to show where i dont get people, everyone in bold besides Jose (who is a major steal at 9th) was picked too early.

also about Howie look at his numbers,

25 (runs) 4(hr) 30 (rbi) 6 (sb) .285 (avg)

okay he did this in 267 ab, but why not take robinson cano, ryan zimmerman etc. in fact you could have taken so many players i cant list then all.

also Dice-K 41's pick WTF??????? I think i screwed up taking him at (93) Daisuke Matsuzaka SP (on one of my teams)


Go to yahoo<<<draft central<<<Draft Analysis and look at the avg taken
how the hell did a-rod drop to 18 and jose to 9 and cabrera was at 2?

edit: also noticed takashi saito being taken at like 76 avg pick 150.

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this isn't a roto league. steals count for very little. thus reyes at 9th is laughable and terrible.

howie is going to get a full season this year. but i almost took both players you mention there.

we are not professional fantasy baseball players lol. i think player 9's team is laughably bad.

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okay so its H2H makes more sense with jose

and i dont mean to come off mean, more like confused.

btw howie avgs. to be 140.7 pick.

also weird that you guys love taking rookies/prospect so early you can probably get some quality players in fa.

edit: who ever got rios at like 169 is a steal considering he avgs at 118