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Old 10-03-2007, 03:38 AM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

I haven't played sngs in a long time, but this was an any two cards push when I played.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

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I haven't played sngs in a long time, but this was an any two cards push when I played.

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It still is.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

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I haven't played sngs in a long time, but this was an any two cards push when I played.

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It still is.

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zomg. Tigerite...good to see you back around.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

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Incredibly read dependent. I mean BB shouldn't call with like AK and stuff but most people still do.

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I think this is absolutely right, great shove against some people godawful against others.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

In perfect world it would be a +ev push, in real its -ev
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

I would have thought this is a standard ATC spot. It's like +0.6%EV when the blinds call "correctly" on 99+ compared to -0.2%EV if they both call AQ+/77+.

Not to mention how ICM undervalues your equity when you lose vs BB and have 55 chips left since the blind hits UTG next hand.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

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In perfect world it would be a +ev push, in real its -ev

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True, you cannot own donks.

I think as the buyin increases, the EV of this push increases, the same goes for the 'regularity' or 'solidarity' of the blinds
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: $60, really slim bubble push...?

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Incredibly read dependent. I mean BB shouldn't call with like AK and stuff but most people still do.

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Old 10-03-2007, 08:54 AM
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seems alright, the third big stack calling wouldnt be that big of a desestar here.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:19 PM
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In perfect world it would be a +ev push, in real its -ev

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I guess you were given better reads than me? Or you were at the table? Can you please explain why this is definitely a -EV push?

If the blinds are both competent, then it seems like a standard push to me, let alone -EV.
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