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Old 01-30-2006, 06:34 PM
Str8Fish Str8Fish is offline
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Default Do you call this down?

What would be your line here?

Villain is LA-P (38/5.48/0.6)
These are my notes on him so far:
-raised preflop with KTo in EP
-auto calls with AJo in SB
-does not care about Ace-kickers and will bet an ace
-cold calls with KTs, K9o

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, BB folds.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:38 PM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Default Re: Do you call this down?

It's tough to tell what crap he is betting on the turn, the flush, the straight or the K, but if you trust your reads you can't really do anything else. If he raises your flop bet can we let this go instead of calling the turn? I probably would but my premium hands have been getting killed lately.
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Do you call this down?

EDIT: misread.

If I'm going to call, I bet against this guy. He won't raise without the nuts.
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Do you call this down?

Bet the turn. Fold to a raise.

C/C the river, based on reads.
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:47 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: Do you call this down?

He should have raised flop with K with 3 opponents behind and a possible gut-shot on board. But this guy is obviously really poor. Some players allways bet when u show weakness on turn. Against such a player I think check/call is okej. But against most opps I bet this turn. Have to charge draws (flush, straights and aces). Unlikely he raise but if he checks behind itīs terrible.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Do you call this down?

I usually fire one more bet on the turn, but FWIW that might be a spew.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Do you call this down?

This is a LAG pre-flop, fish post-flop (LPP). Here we have the scenario SSH describes in value-betting the river. If we plan on check/calling the river for a fish, then we may as well bet ourselves. We give him an opportunity to value-bet his better hands, but check-down the cheaper ones. The same idea can be applied to the turn. When we check, we allow him to take a free card when he has hands we're ahead of, like A8, A7, 99. He will call regularly with these weak holdings, so we may as well be betting here for value, so we can collect the times we are ahead (which is more often the case).
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