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Old 11-19-2007, 12:36 PM
Brian O'Nolan Brian O'Nolan is offline
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Default NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

Villain is at a couple of my tables, seems like a pretty ABC 16/12. My image here should be solid, have only shown down quality, runnin 21/18 or so. UTG seems ~ average.


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $111.74
UTG+1: $200.32
CO: $141.38
Hero: $192.82
SB: $98.50
BB: $111.52

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $12</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($29, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $91.5</font>
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:41 PM
Chicago Twister Chicago Twister is offline
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

Is this a bluff or for value?
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:57 PM
Brian O'Nolan Brian O'Nolan is offline
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

100% a bluff... my hand has minimal showdown value here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:00 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

This is a bluff. And villain is basically unbluffable on that board. He might fold TT I suppose. You have to respect an ABC TAG player who 3bs an UTG PFR when he is UTG+1. And if he sees you as a decent player, what does he think you are coldcalling a 3b with? TT+ probably and he still leads into you. He might just c/f AK there. You aren't in good shape imo.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

We're going to get looked up too often because of hos drawy the board is.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

ditto AJ, the key here is that they are utg and utg+1.

and yes, i agree villain is unbluffable (profitably) given action.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

Would anyone fold this preflop? We have nothing invested, UTG is still left to act, and there is not much room for moves because the pot will be bigger than a normal 3bet pot.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

i dont hate a fold.
but i am calling there for set value esp as deep (relatively), and given villains position, his range is polarized, making it more likely he will pay u off with his likely overpair.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

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Would anyone fold this preflop? We have nothing invested, UTG is still left to act, and there is not much room for moves because the pot will be bigger than a normal 3bet pot.

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I call for set value against deep stacked player OOP.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:31 PM
chris269 chris269 is offline
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Default Re: NL100: 99 deep, FPS?

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Would anyone fold this preflop? We have nothing invested, UTG is still left to act, and there is not much room for moves because the pot will be bigger than a normal 3bet pot.

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I call for set value against deep stacked player OOP.

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missed the stack sizes, 200 bb deep it's a pretty clear call, 100bb would be a fold !?
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