** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan ** - Page 2

Mike Kelley · #1 09-01-2007, 04:41 AM

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I decided tonight that I want to try coke sometime and all my friends were terified. None of them want to do it ever. I found a poker mentor though and he's sick, HoldemPhil. I'm gonna be at least as good as anyone here in 3 months time.

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Tastes like aspirin.

holdem2000 · #2 09-01-2007, 07:25 PM

Didn't catch the post 'til now from the August thread, my QQ vs. Prodigy's AA, so I'm sticking my reply here...

No flop continuation bet because I suspect I'm behind. My turn call is getting 3:1, figuring you can have AK/JJ still, and hoping you shut down with AA/KK knowing that I do occasionally have a set, two pair, or a straight here.

Have I made a lot of huge CBs? In heads up pots I thought I was pretty consistently around 1.5 times my preflop bet, do most people think that's on the big side? I guess it might be a little bit big for 3-bet pots.

Edit: I also may have just not had the time to put into one or more of my decisions on this hand... I was playing 8 or more tables and the past couple nights I've had a little trouble keeping focus.

holdem2000 · #3 09-01-2007, 07:40 PM

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My turn call is getting 3:1, figuring you can have AK/JJ still, and hoping you shut down with AA/KK knowing that I do occasionally have a set, two pair, or a straight here.

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This type of situation is probably one of the bigger leaks in my game right now... I think I need to be paying more attention and make better decisions when faced with these bets and figure out whether to fold or raise instead of being a pussy.

kcheel · #4 09-01-2007, 09:53 PM

Expert play by MP1.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($173.10)
Button ($196.55)
SB ($117.80)
Hero ($203.60)
UTG ($188.95)
UTG+1 ($226.90)
MP1 ($285.10)
MP2 ($215.15)
MP3 ($41)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to $10, MP1 calls $8, MP2 calls $8, CO folds, SB folds.

Flop: ($34) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $28, MP1 calls $28, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $60, MP1 calls $60.

River: ($210) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $105.6 (All-In), MP1 calls $105.60.

Final Pot: $421.20

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd Kc (full house, kings full of fours).
MP1 has Ah Ad (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $421.20.

TheProdigy · #5 09-01-2007, 07:47 PM

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Didn't catch the post 'til now from the August thread, my QQ vs. Prodigy's AA, so I'm sticking my reply here...

No flop continuation bet because I suspect I'm behind. My turn call is getting 3:1, figuring you can have AK/JJ still, and hoping you shut down with AA/KK knowing that I do occasionally have a set, two pair, or a straight here.

Have I made a lot of huge CBs? In heads up pots I thought I was pretty consistently around 1.5 times my preflop bet, do most people think that's on the big side? I guess it might be a little bit big for 3-bet pots.

Edit: I also may have just not had the time to put into one or more of my decisions on this hand... I was playing 8 or more tables and the past couple nights I've had a little trouble keeping focus.

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Yea calling getting 3:1 isn't a good idea if the largest % of my range leaves you with two outs [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The cbets I remember a cpl where you made pretty large ones, so I dunno. I don't think you played it horribly, although obviously if you were checking the flop because you thought you were behind I see no reason for flat calling the turn?

Regardless of anything you made the best 1 decision in that hand, which was checking the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Edit: This cannot be a good indicator of the rest of the month for sets...:

soah · #6 09-01-2007, 08:07 PM

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to soah2 [Ad As]
CK the 1: calls $4
TheRealSkelo: folds
AceyDavey: folds
AceyDavey said, "instinct"
juniex: folds
soah2: raises $14 to $18
proxipus: calls $18
oddball58: calls $16
ninalk: folds
CK the 1: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [8c 8s Jh]
oddball58: bets $37
CK the 1: folds
soah2: calls $37
proxipus: folds
*** TURN *** [8c 8s Jh] [7s]
oddball58: checks
soah2: bets $80
oddball58: raises $87 to $167 and is all-in
soah2: calls $87
*** RIVER *** [8c 8s Jh 7s] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
oddball58: shows [Js Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
soah2: mucks hand
oddball58 collected $481 from pot

september off to a good start, 20 hands in

Teddie · #7 09-01-2007, 08:09 PM

Blog's here is anyone is ever really bored.

http://microaments.blogspot.com/

skydancing8 · #8 09-02-2007, 06:38 AM

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] poker

Ed_Warren · #9 09-02-2007, 09:02 AM

I knew the board would pair on the river...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($400)
Hero ($468)
MP2 ($74)
CO ($475.95)
Button ($402.35)
SB ($250)
BB ($434.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, Button calls $16, 1 fold, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, Button calls $45, BB raises to $180, Hero raises to $452, Button calls $341.35 (All-In), BB calls $238.40 (All-In).

Turn: ($1273.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($1273.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $1273.16

Results in white below: 
BB has 7c 7h (full house, sevens full of queens).
Hero has Kc Ac (straight, ace high).
Button has 6c 5c (one pair, queens).
Outcome: BB wins $1273.14. Hero wins $33.59.

Mike Kelley · #10 09-02-2007, 12:15 PM

Atleast they can work for a pot 2% as big. Combo Draws I mean.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($24.50)
MP2 ($13.20)
MP3 ($26.25)
CO ($15)
Button ($3.90)
Hero ($39.40)
BB ($9.75)
UTG ($13.65)
UTG+1 ($8.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.35.
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets $1, BB calls $1, UTG folds, MP2 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, BB folds, CO raises to $10, Hero raises to $19, CO raises to $22.65, Hero calls $0.64.

Turn: ($44.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($44.65) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $44.65

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ah 3h (straight, five high).
CO has 9s 2s (two pair, nines and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $44.65.

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