AJ flops TPTK then gets lost postflop.

[matrix]

aaaaaaaand another hand I seem to have butchered postflop.

Villain is a 50/4/1 crazy person.

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $50.75
UTG: $38
MP: $70.44
CO: $131.79
BTN: $52.01
Hero (SB): $49.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.25</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $8.50</font>, Hero calls $4.25

Turn: ($21.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $8</font>, Hero ???

I'm sure I did something horribly wrong here - just not sure what exactly.

Whats the plan from here and is a 3bet all-in on this flop my best course of action?

[bsball8806]

I think UTG is much more likely to have a pair between 5's and J's than a 4. With his stats I like a 3bet all in, i've seen 9's and 10's make crying calls here.

[Profish2285]

Im for shoving this flop as well. This could be a whole range of hands you beat. I honestly dont know what to say about the turn seeing as how we got here. He could be doing this with a draw still, a jack, or maybe he just hit his queen.

[Khaos4k]

Agaisnt a villain with station stats, I push flop. He'll call you with a jacks+worse kicker.

[Scapegote]

I think calling down and launching into a string of expletives is my standard line here.

I'm definitely not laying down for 8, getting like 3.5-1.

[doppelganger]

Against this villain I think I commit on the flop and 3bet to about $20. This is certainly not a 4 and most likely a draw.

Edit: I never think about shoving, but it sounds right here. Lot's of turn cards you don't want to see. (As evidenced by this particular turn card.) I need to make more overbet shoves in these situations.

[whyherro]

3 betting the flop is terrible here and if villain is remotely sane you are only getting called by hands that you are behind. Just call him down. I might vbet river. obv. fold to a push.

[Khaos4k]

[ QUOTE ]
3 betting the flop is terrible here and if villain is remotely sane you are only getting called by hands that you are behind. Just call him down. I might vbet river. obv. fold to a push.

[/ QUOTE ]

Villains vastly overrate a pair of jacks here. This villain has 50% VPIP. We can assume that he's beginning to approach insane.

[whyherro]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
3 betting the flop is terrible here and if villain is remotely sane you are only getting called by hands that you are behind. Just call him down. I might vbet river. obv. fold to a push.

[/ QUOTE ]

Villains vastly overrate a pair of jacks here. This villain has 50% VPIP. We can assume that he's beginning to approach insane.

[/ QUOTE ]

in which case you still get the most value by calling or raising turn and value betting the river. massage the pot and don't give him a chance to do something smart.

[z28dreams]

Villain raises here with a lot of air, just because the flop looks so raggy.

I'm wondering how a call flop, crai on turn line would be?