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Old 08-15-2007, 08:03 AM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default 77 - raise with marginal hand when pot is big?

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0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em <font color="blue">(9 handed)</font>
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="grey">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="grey">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="grey">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">BU 3-bets</font>, <font color="grey">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="red">BU bets</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: 77 - raise with marginal hand when pot is big?

i would bet the flop call a raise
as played. call
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: 77 - raise with marginal hand when pot is big?

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would bet the flop call a raise


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Why would you bet the flop when button will c-bet 100% of his range?

Dont donk any street if its gonna get c-bet anyways!


OP, I think I c/r the flop. You have 6 outs vs an overpair and AK, AQ is 32 combos so a big part of his range.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:18 AM
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Default Re: 77 - raise with marginal hand when pot is big?

if he stats off. he's not letting go till the end. if we donk . and he dont hit turn. he very much might fold.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:21 AM
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if he stats off. he's not letting go till the end. if we donk . and he dont hit turn. he very much might fold.

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And he wont fold the turn when Hero c/r'es the flop?

You are missing the point sir.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: 77 - raise with marginal hand when pot is big?

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if he stats off. he's not letting go till the end. if we donk . and he dont hit turn. he very much might fold.

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And he wont fold the turn when Hero c/r'es the flop?

You are missing the point sir.

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i know what u mean. but no he's not foling in 25/50
and if he's got a pair or hit. its gonna be costy
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: 77 - raise with marginal hand when pot is big?

im just thinking )) u could very much be right
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:29 AM
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if we donk . and he dont hit turn. he very much might fold.

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This means if Hero donks he might fold overcards on the turn right?

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but no he's not foling in 25/50


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Do you even agree with yourself now?
Is he folding or not?

Donking this flop is a mistake due to the extremely simple fact that button will bet it for you with 100% probability. The only time you should ever donk this flop is when you intend to bet/3-bet


In this hand a c/r is MUCH MUCH better than a donk because it will also face the third guy with calling two bets.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: 77 - raise with marginal hand when pot is big?

with overcards we call down.
in case of reraise in case of c/r? we fold?
or your action on turn? lead? and get raised?
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:34 AM
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with overcards we call down.
in case of reraise in case of c/r? we fold?
or your action on turn? lead? and get raised?

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