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#11
08-15-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
I bet here. I dont think the SB and MP are going for a c/r given that it was checked through on the turn. If they boated up they'd fear it being checked through given the turn action.
Bet as i think you are ahead and hope to get called by a smaller flush. 
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#12
08-15-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
i think due to the 2 checks on both turn and river, they dont have the 7, if they have they have played it v.badly. I think the 2nd person to act would have bet a full house here as he has check turn and river, and is he really looking to check the river with one person behind him to c/r? i dont think so. I think you can be a little worried about the first guy but i think that he would havebet out a full house on river maybe, considering that everyone checked turn.maybe he was betting out flopped straight of flush/straight draw on flop and checked turn cause of fear some one tripped up and wanted to see a cheap river easy bet fold though so i think a small bet would be just right to get value from an overpair/straight or smaller flush
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#13
08-15-2007, 11:54 AM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
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bet it. somebody could have the straight draw as well, and could pay you off as well. it's a very easy b/f anyways, so not much to lose. [/ QUOTE ] I would think that a straight would have bet by now but this is a possibility. So, it depends if you think your opponents would put in more action with a straight and if not then will they now call with it? You really are hoping to get called by A-high, a smaller flush, a PP, or a straight.
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#14
08-15-2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
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bet it. somebody could have the straight draw as well, and could pay you off as well. it's a very easy b/f anyways, so not much to lose. [/ QUOTE ] What percentage of the pot do you bet in a bet/fold situation like this?
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#16
08-15-2007, 12:22 PM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
To be serious I think all overpairs on this board are raising preflop, a straight has to be a made straight and it would have certainly bet the turn or raised on the flop to protect against flushdraws higher straightdraws + for value. I don't think ace high is calling, because of the small bluff opportunities and what has diebitter in his hand then that does call the flop but not beats ace high in the end...? I really only expect to be called by smaller flushdraws or a hand with a five in it; betting out here is thus borderline +EV if it is +EV at all.
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#17
08-15-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
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thus borderline +EV if it is +EV at all. [/ QUOTE ] so, if it is +EV, then you should bet. if you check it through, you already have the best hand. this is not a great board to c/r for value, it IS a great board to c/r bluff.
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#19
08-15-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
actually after some more thought, i agree with effang, if opponents are able to check raise bluff the river then i think checking behind is fine. also the pot is small , its not like you are missing out on much value
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#20
08-15-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: NL100: A good hand on a scary board by the river...
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bet it. somebody could have the straight draw as well, and could pay you off as well. it's a very easy b/f anyways, so not much to lose. [/ QUOTE ] umm...why is it an easy b/f? If I'm betting its because either the players are bad enough to call with A high (doesn't seem to be the case) or because I know they would always lead a FH (not the case either). Also, if either player is any good then its a decent spot for him to c/r bluff because there aren't many hands at all that DB can truly bet for value here and he has about the top end of his range.
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