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Old 08-10-2006, 11:39 PM
hammerva hammerva is offline
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Default Should I have pushed set harder on flop and turn

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.15
UTG+1: $20.20
MP1: $33.45
MP2: $20.35
hammerva: $12.05
Button: $31.10
SB: $9.25
BB: $37

Pre-flop: (8 players) hammerva is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, hammerva calls, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $0.5</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, hammerva calls, Button calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2.5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $1.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hammerva raises to $3</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">hammerva bets $4.5</font>, UTG calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, hammerva checks.

Results:
Final pot: $17.5

According to PokerTracker UTG guy was very aggressive with a VI$P over 50 and an aggression factor of 1.4. From watching his play after this, he definitely never met 2 suited cards he didn't like. I have a feeling the opinion here will be "go all in on the flop (or turn)" but with a flush draw like that isn't that extremely risky. I want to chalk this hand as "Not much I can do" but I am pretty sure I did something wrong. Looking at the turn, my 55% of the pot bet looks really bad now.

Thoughts. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:43 PM
The White Rabbit The White Rabbit is offline
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Default Re: Should I have pushed set harder on flop and turn

First of all: Reload! You always want to have a full stack.
2nd: this isn't a set, but trips which is a weaker hand because it's much more obvious and other people can have you outkicked (not here off course).

You need to raise way more on the flop, at least to 5. After that the turn is an easy push.

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have a feeling the opinion here will be "go all in on the flop (or turn)" but with a flush draw like that isn't that extremely risky.

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You're ahead of a flushdraw. It's never risky to get your money in when you're ahead. If by "risky" you mean you'll loose a certain amount of the time, sure, but that's poker.
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:03 AM
RIDGE45 RIDGE45 is offline
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Default Re: Should I have pushed set harder on flop and turn

Make a Pot sized raise on the flop, and get it in on the turn. You are allowing anyone to draw for cheap.

This is not a time to bet small in hopes of brining someone along.

Bet appropriately and if he wants to play so be it, if not, oh well.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:30 AM
avfletch avfletch is offline
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Default Re: Should I have pushed set harder on flop and turn

How many other people raise this preflop? I'm raising this almost every time but I'm a 6max player. That said I can't see any reason why this is any different to UTG limping in 6max and my having A6s in the cut off.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:37 AM
jfq4999 jfq4999 is offline
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Default Re: Should I have pushed set harder on flop and turn

Completely agree, should have bet more on the flop so that you can push the turn...should you even be calling here CO? raise or fold I think.
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