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05-02-2006, 12:31 AM
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5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
folded to me on button i open Jd6d (my image is LAG), sb(950) who is tightish TAG player and seems decent (sry no PT stats) repots to 115. BB folds and i decide to raise again making it 290 str8, he pauses and calls.
flop comes K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] check to me... pot is 590 and we have 650 left. push and try to leverage some FE or check behind and see a freebie? 
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#3
05-02-2006, 12:36 AM
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Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
I used to push on TAGs in this situation all the time, but realized that they always trap in this spot with monsters and only sometimes lay down QQ. I would check behind and stack him when the diamond comes on the turn.
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#4
05-02-2006, 12:38 AM
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Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
Push dat [censored]. If a brick comes, you can't win the juicy pot.
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#8
05-02-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
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shove, this is great for your image either way [/ QUOTE ] ding ding ding. You didn't reraise preflop to check a flush draw with your J6 dia. Push!!!
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#9
05-02-2006, 04:42 PM
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Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
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[ QUOTE ] shove, this is great for your image either way [/ QUOTE ] ding ding ding. You didn't reraise preflop to check a flush draw with your J6 dia. Push!!! [/ QUOTE ] ding ding ding. Totally useless analysis.
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#10
05-02-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: 5/10 online. J6s flops draw, get a freebie or get it in?
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I used to push on TAGs in this situation all the time, but realized that they always trap in this spot with monsters and only sometimes lay down QQ. I would check behind and stack him when the diamond comes on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I have to disagree, I really think a push is in order to win the pot against QQ-JJ. How do you expect to win this pot if you check the flop and a brick hits? I don't like checking the flop with only 650 behind in a 500+ pot. Why would we advocate check-folding the turn if a non-diamond hits... because that's why we'll have to do if he bets out with those hands. Are you saying he won't bet out the turn with QQ and JJ and can then see the river for free anyway? and that the hands he'll bet the turn are ones you're losing to on the flop so there's no loss in checking the flop and folding the turn? Against lags you must bet the flop.
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