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Old 09-30-2007, 09:18 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default A4 in BB (Live)

Live tournament at local club.

buy-in: $470
Entries: 18
start stack: 10k

Prices:
1: $3800
2: $2300
3: $1500

7 players left and avg stack is 25.7k.

I (BB) have 27k and Villian (Button) is the shortstack with 7k. The other players have 15-35k.

blinds: 400/800, 50 ante

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, Villian pushes for 7k, SB folds, Hero..?

Do you make this call?

I think Villians range is very wide here and that I probably have about ~50% vs it so a call is obv +chipEV.

However, Villian is a dangereous opponent that I dont want to double up, but on the other hand it would be great to eliminate him. Another aspect is that if I fold I have more than avarage but if I call and lose I go down to 20k. The hurt of losing 7k is obv much bigger for me than the good things about increasing by about the same amount. Also, I almost never have more than 60% even if I am a favourite.

If you think I am off in my reasoning above plz eloborate in what way.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:49 AM
willperkins willperkins is offline
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Default Re: A4 in BB (Live)

I fold in this spot.

1. Villian's M is 5 so he his looking for a spot to push, however, he can look at 6 more hands before he has to really get serious about shoving.

2. You are about 55% to win against a random hand, but villian is saying he has a better than random hand.

3. With and M 0f 17, I would have to have A8 or better to make this call.

IMHO
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: A4 in BB (Live)

I call. You are putting in 42% of the money and you are 53% against a top 40% hand.

Incidently, you are 60% against a random hand, unlike what the other poster said.

You are gamble a portion of your stack, but you can afford it. I wouldn't mind knocking out a good player and getting closer to the money.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:39 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: A4 in BB (Live)

or something in between..

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.730% 54.73% 02.00% 13776739008 502613718.00 { A4o }
Hand 1: 43.270% 41.27% 02.00% 10388902356 502613718.00 { random }
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: A4 in BB (Live)

I did it for A8 rather than A4. A4 is closer.
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: A4 in BB (Live)

Any more opinions?
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:07 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: A4 in BB (Live)

I can see villain making this play with a sufficient % of his hands in order to make this call, but it's close and if you feel like you can play well against the players to your left, I think you can find a fold. Also, is it possible that somebody else does the dirty work for you here?
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