100/200 - 2 decisions vs p3achy

[imabigdeal]

p3achy is too good, i'd avoid him completely but given the way the hand was played not betting river seems criminal. i'd probably bet like 7200 and if he shoves puke and call.

[Ansky]

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p3achy is too good, i'd avoid him completely but given the way the hand was played not betting river seems criminal. i'd probably bet like 7200 and if he shoves puke and call.

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what do you mean he is too good and you would avoid him? Should i open fold the flop ? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Daut44]

i bet small (60-65% pot) on river and call shove

betting big doesnt let him think he has fold equity and probably doesnt leave you room to fold, so might as well bet small and induce a shove

[KRANTZ]

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I don't get why you guys think he'll shove a big hand on the turn, seems like our range is polarized to bluffs/hands that will vbet river and almost never a draw except for 89.

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agree

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ding ding ding

[TheWorstPlayer]

for me, it's between shove and check on this river. i dont understand a bet other than a shove at all in this spot. and i'd usually shove because if your hand is good, you have to hope to get looked up by a pretty marginal hand and a shove looks the most bluffy. but if he's very good and I think he might be letting me hang myself, then I can see a check. but if you bet small, he's just going to push all better hands and then you'll be too committed to fold - so you just cost yourself cash and look less like you're bluffing. both bad things.

[Ansky]

so how about bet/folding then...

[TheWorstPlayer]

but you're getting such sick odds on the last call. and why would you bet less than full pot leaving you with like 1/6th pot left? it just makes no sense to bet less than all-in here, to my mind. you have less than 1.5x pot left. i dont see any reason why you wouldn't just shove it in. if you had missed 8 high hearts, wouldnt you put it all in if you were going to bluff? it just seems weird to bet like 7k and then leave yourself 8 more in a 25k pot...?

[Ship Ship McGipp]

i would have raised to less on the turn, and i would be fine betting 3/5 of the pot on the river

[Stinger88]

I agree with most everyone and say you should bet 2/3 pottish and call a shove

[MDMA]

I dislike raising the turn, but I do not for one second understand why anyone would raise turn here NOT to bet this river; that simply makes no sense to me.