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Old 11-16-2007, 05:58 AM
n.s. n.s. is offline
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Default heads-up and OOP with K9o

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villain (button) is a tight, decent player. He's a bit on the passive side, but he will adjust for things like steal-resteal situations. He doesn't bluff very often, but he's not incapable of it. He's friendly and not the actor type at all. He probably sees me about the same way that I see him.

Earlier in the evening he did make one questionable play, though. He raised PF from LP, checked through a two-tone board (multiway), checked through the turn when he made TPGK (he had none of the flush cards) and raised a river bet on a blank river.

Fold to me in the CO and I raise K9o, villain 3-bets, blinds clear out, I call.

Flop: 567r
I check, villain bets, I call.

Turn: 9
I check, villain thinks for a bit and bets, I raise, villain calls relatively quickly.

River: blank
I bet, intending to fold.

Standard? Should I just bet the turn? Is c/f (or even c/c?) better on the river?
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: heads-up and OOP with K9o

Turn just bet. He will check alot of hands that have 6 outs, but will only call down a cr/barrel with better hands. bet/fold is fine on river.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: heads-up and OOP with K9o

i hate the turn cr
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: heads-up and OOP with K9o

c/f is fine on river too.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: heads-up and OOP with K9o

and given your turn c/r, I'm not putting in any bets on this river...
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: heads-up and OOP with K9o

thanks for the input. I should have mentioned that I checked the turn with the intention to actually fold sometimes if he bet confidently/in rhythm. His hesitation is what made made me think that he was deciding whether or not fire again with overcards (he's good enough to not freeze up with a big pair just because of the one-card straight).

On the river, I figured I had some fold equity, he might make a crying call with AK, and that it would be good not to have to show my hand. In retrospect, the first two reasons are way too optimistic, but is that last one a valid reason to bet? He is a tight player and I'd been buying the button off of him somewhat regularly.

I'm not trying to justify my play, I'm just looking for more feedback on my thought process.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: heads-up and OOP with K9o

In general, I'm trying to make my style of play look looser and more aggressive than I actually am. I like showing down weak hands, as it helps my good hands get paid. Esp. when I think I'm going to win. Of course, nothing would stop me from making a value bet, if I thought I could get value out of it. [ QUOTE ]
On the river, I figured I had some fold equity, he might make a crying call with AK

[/ QUOTE ] You can't have it both ways. Though I suppose if you don't know him, you could be unsure of which result you were affecting. With that read of him, I certainly bet the river hoping he'll call AK. Though I guess a matrix of: calls X% with a worse hand vs. Has a better hand Y% - should be used. That is, anytime he has a better hand, the only way to lose a bet is to bet. Those times that he has a lesser hand, he's only calling some of the time when you bet. So, If you think you're winning 65% of the time, but that he calls with AK 50% of the time, you should actually check/fold as betting wins you a bet 32.5% and loses you a bet 35%. Of course, in the heat of the moment, I'd say, "hmm, I think he has AK. I hope he call!"
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: heads-up and OOP with K9o

I don't mind the turn C/r, but when he quickly calls it signals to me that you are beat
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