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Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
Casino 3/6 with all the perks...4 loose-passive opponents, 3 semi-loose passive opponents, 1 tight-passive opponent and 1 loose-aggressive table cop.
HERO: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in MP3 2 limps, Hero limps, CO limps, Button limps, SB limps, <font color="red">BB(Slightly drunk table cop) raises</font> , all call FLOP: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(7 players/14 SB) </font> SB checks, <font color="red">Slightly Drunk Table Cop bets</font> , UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds TURN: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players/9.5 BB) </font> <font color="red">Slightly Drunk Table Cop bets</font> , UTG+2 calls, Hero thinks and calls, CO folds, Button folds. RIVER: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players / 12.5 BB) </font> Slightly Drunk Table Cop checks, <font color="red">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, Slightly Drunk Table Cop folds and bitches, UTG+2 calls FINAL POT: 16.5 BB I didn't have much on the flop but with 16:1 immediate and little chance someone was going to raise behind me (based on the last 4 hours) I felt good. Any diamond, 6, 8, 4, K or 7 improves my hand into a good draw/potentially playable hand on the turn. Really I'm looking for a diamond or the 6 for the double-belly-buster. Except for perhaps not raising the turn with 15 outs, anything wrong with this hand? |
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
I don't get the flop play at all. You have less than 1 out. Even getting 16:1 on your call fold.
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
How do you figure less than one out. Sure, you can't count a K as 3 full outs but it has to be considered at least a possible out. The backdoor flush draw in itself is good for 1.5 to 2 outs. The backdoor straight draws could be another. So I'd estimate about 3.5 outs which is plenty here.
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
Marginal situation, but well played IMO. I think you can raise the turn here.
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
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Marginal situation, but well played IMO. I think you can raise the turn here. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
Why is raising the turn good here? So far we have 2 other players in. 15 outs means you win 1 in 3 so it's not really a value bet unless you have other people that call. You don't want a free showdown because you have little/no showdown value. You have 2 people to act after you who are likely to call 1 bet in a large pot probably with some awful hands but are likely to fold to a raise. If you hit on the river it's likely that drunk cop will bet out again which gives you a great chance to raise with the caller inbetween. I just don't see a turn raise being good here. I realize that you didn't get overcallers on the turn and that drunk cop didn't bet the river, but that's looking at things from a results standpoint and I still stand by my statements of what I think will happen in general.
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
I wouldnt play this preflop. I think flop is a fold because you are probably drawing to runner runner.
Honestly, limping mp with K7s in middle pos. and calling on flop with Nothing is not a good idea IMO. |
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
The slightly cop drunk was right.
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
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I wouldnt play this preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Neither would I. [ QUOTE ] I think flop is a fold because you are probably drawing to runner runner. [/ QUOTE ] Yes he is probably drawing to a runner runner, but that does not mean he should fold. His runner runner flush draw combined with his multiple ways to get a runner runner straight means you can estimate at least 3 outs. I think 3 is even being a little conservative and one could conceivably estimate 4, 4.5 outs. But even being conservative with 3 outs you can see that a call is justified. 16 to 1 and 3 outs, I'd call all day so unless I'm figuring the outs wrong then I think this is a very nice flop call. |
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Re: Slightly drunk table cop implied I was dumb...
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I wouldnt play this preflop. I think flop is a fold because you are probably drawing to runner runner. Honestly, limping mp with K7s in middle pos. and calling on flop with Nothing is not a good idea IMO. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't say nothing. There's the potential for something with a good card on the turn (and there are a lot of cards that help). Plus the pot is huge, and I can outplay these guys after the flop. |
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