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Old 09-26-2007, 02:57 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

What's standard here or this s a spot where it doesn't matter?

villain stacks off w/ second pair on paired boards, etc

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Button ($417)
Maulik ($965.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Maulik raises to $12</font>, Button calls $8.

Flop: ($24) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Maulik bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $45</font>, Maulik calls $30.

Turn: ($114) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Maulik checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Maulik raises to $414</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: $314
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

how thin do you think he would bet the river
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

Looks fine, seems like he had air. I doubt you're getting much more value there.
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

there's no busted draws you can rep on the river, and lot of scare cards could come...i would c/r turn or stop and go turn
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

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how thin do you think he would bet the river

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This is after the fact, but he'd prob bet any queen for value/bluff.
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

I'd still like to know if it matters whether I c/r turn or lead the river
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

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Looks fine, seems like he had air. I doubt you're getting much more value there.

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Old 09-26-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

You would probably get more value if he'll pay off a c/r on the turn. If you lead river with a bet, IMO he'll just flat call with any Q, and never raise you with a Q.

But there's a chance that he may pay your turn c/r with a Q.
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:06 PM
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You would probably get more value if he'll pay off a c/r on the turn. If you lead river with a bet, IMO he'll just flat call with any Q, and never raise you with a Q.

But there's a chance that he may pay your turn c/r with a Q.

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river bet=shove
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 333 turn c/r or riv lead

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You would probably get more value if he'll pay off a c/r on the turn. If you lead river with a bet, IMO he'll just flat call with any Q, and never raise you with a Q.

But there's a chance that he may pay your turn c/r with a Q.

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river bet=shove

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lol. Obv. I completely blanked and misread how action would have gone on the turn. You're right. But I still like turn c/r because too many scare cards can come on the river.
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