100bb river donk

McIntireUVA · #1 06-28-2006, 05:14 AM

Villian is a 30/15/3 regular that is a breakeven player / marginally winning player possibly. He plays enough to the point I'm guessing he's up or up after RB.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $423.10
UTG+1: $1102.65
CO: $853
Hero: $1855.50
SB: $2081.70
BB: $67.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $70, SB calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($170, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $110, SB calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($390, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $295, SB calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($980, 2 players)
SB bets $970, Hero ???

Much debate between my friends to no really definitive answer. I think that most of you will lean towards call, but I don't think its obvious given preflop reraise (smaller since raise min at first, but still a factor)

What are your thoughts? Ready... GO.

tubasteve · #2 06-28-2006, 05:17 AM

1) Don't kill your implied odds preflop

2) Don't kill your implied odds preflop

3) Worst river ever. I think I fold.

bmxicle · #3 06-28-2006, 05:31 AM

don't re-raise QJs Pf cause samoleous said so [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

McIntireUVA · #4 06-28-2006, 05:32 AM

I think that is very good advice. Thank you.

I think that I reraise on the button there to not have my cards be completely transparent when I have premium hands.

Maybe just a call is in order preflop given the raise min and my hand strength in multi-way pots. Thanks.

McIntireUVA · #5 06-28-2006, 05:33 AM

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don't re-raise QJs Pf cause samoleous said so [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I believe that was OOP though. That was also in a blind steal with normal raise amount ($35 in these stakes) and a full reraise.

$35 to $120 OOP is much different than $20 to $70 in position. They are trying to accomplish slightly different goals as well.

bmxicle · #6 06-28-2006, 05:49 AM

I was just joking about PF, its fine.

I mean i really can't say correctly without having played the player but you are risking 970 to win 440 when you are chopping, so you have to chop 66% of the time for this to be profitable. So i think this really depends on your opps ability to make big river bluffs, if you know he does i think this is a crying call, however if he isn't its unlikely that he would even make this bet with a lone J, and thus it is a fold.