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Old 08-17-2006, 09:20 PM
Keys Myaths Keys Myaths is offline
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Default Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

Villian is 30/11/1.5 over 60 hands. No real reads other than that.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($5)
UTG ($21.20)
UTG+1 ($11.21)
MP1 ($56.80)
MP2 ($19.10)
CO ($5)
Hero ($24.75)
SB ($25.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($1.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, MP2 calls $1.75.

Turn: ($6.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $1</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

I would just call
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:05 AM
Keys Myaths Keys Myaths is offline
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

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I would just call

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Reasoning?
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

you may have the best hand as it stands, and if not, you are getting the right price to draw to your hand. Any Q or ace on the river, you would probably be good too.
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

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you may have the best hand as it stands, and if not, you are getting the right price to draw to your hand. Any Q or ace on the river, you would probably be good too.

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Obviously, I'm not folding.

But why not double-barrel here?
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

he is prob betting with some [censored] top pair like 87 or some crap, take him off it a raise has fold equity and if he calls you have loads of outs and a 3rd barrel even if u miss prob takes it down.
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Old 08-18-2006, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

I'd just call, I'd hate to get pushed off this draw by a large re-raise. He's giving you perfect pot odds to draw to the nut flush too, even without counting the implied odds on river action or hitting an A or Q for tp that may be good as well.
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Old 08-18-2006, 03:38 AM
Evil_Andy Evil_Andy is offline
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

At this level i think a smooth call is in order. He has bet into you twice and FE at 25nl on party is smaller than you think. Why not call if you hit an ace or Q you can either smooth call or raise for value depending on your read and if your flushcomes you can get lots of value because he will overplay his hands. WHy semi bluff a calling station?
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Old 08-18-2006, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

just call, unless you know you have some decent fold equity. Most of times you will get called by some TP crap, if you raise it here.
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Monster draw, miss on turn, now what?

call the turn, raise more on the flop - to 3.50 seems about right
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